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IPv6 is horrible. I would rather have many more decimal based addresses than trying to think in hex. As for DNS, DNS is probably 30% of my problems and it jus

IPv6 is horrible. I would rather have many more decimal based addresses than trying to think in hex. As for DNS, DNS is probably 30% of my problems and it just made it worse.

joe_guy 3y ago
I've got no horse in the race, but I recall this being an enlightening read https://apenwarr.ca/log/20170810 https://apenwarr.ca/log/20170810
- mdaniel 3y ago
  That was stellar, thanks so much for sharing it > We'll need to keep running a local DHCP server at home so that our obsolete IPv4 light bulbs keep working. We'll keep needing NAT so that our obsolete IPv4 light bulbs can keep reaching the Internet. I feel seen :-(
- rstuart4133 3y ago
  As the other poster said, Stellar. At the end I was reading about mobile IP issues, and a voice in my head said I bet he doesn't mention QUIC. Then he mentioned it. Which makes it the most complete piece I've read on IP routing.
- Dagger2 3y ago
  It's not really, it just spends a lot of time waffling on about bus networks and mobile IPs and then makes some weird claims about the IETF that don't seem to match reality. v6 is designed the way it is precisely because it needs to run on the same networks that v4 does, and v6 is a better design than v4 in our world because our world has completely outgrown v4.
menotyou 3y ago
This. I still keep IPv6 turned of in my local network at home.
kmbfjr 3y ago
Not trying to be a smartass, but managing DNS at scale IS a solved problem. Maybe change tooling? IPv6 is awful, but it is what it is and I appreciate the death of NAT.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  Speaking of managing at scale and splitting well: the reverse lookup domain name corresponding to the address 4321:0:1:2:3:4:567:89ab would be b.a.9.8.7.6.5.0.4.0.0.0.3.0.0.0.2.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1.2.3.4.IP6. ARPA. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3596#section-2.5 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3596#section-2.5
apearson 3y ago
Hex: 2001:db8:abcd:efab::1 Decimal: 32.1.13.184.171.205.239.171.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1 Hex looks easier to me. Plus it has the upside of splitting well on /64, /60, /56, /48, /32 which are the common cidr splits in IPv6. Can you split the decimal on a /56 in your head? I always have to use a cidr calculator for IPv4 (/27, /28, /22) but never with IPv6.
JackSlateur 3y ago
What ? You learn IPv4 using dot-decimal ? What a noob ! Could not you learn all the IP as numbers, like a real man ?

IPv6 is horrible. I would rather have many more decimal based addresses than trying to think in hex. As for DNS, DNS is probably 30% of my problems and it just made it worse.

joe_guy 3y ago

I've got no horse in the race, but I recall this being an enlightening read https://apenwarr.ca/log/20170810 https://apenwarr.ca/log/20170810

mdaniel 3y ago
That was stellar, thanks so much for sharing it > We'll need to keep running a local DHCP server at home so that our obsolete IPv4 light bulbs keep working. We'll keep needing NAT so that our obsolete IPv4 light bulbs can keep reaching the Internet. I feel seen :-(
rstuart4133 3y ago
As the other poster said, Stellar. At the end I was reading about mobile IP issues, and a voice in my head said I bet he doesn't mention QUIC. Then he mentioned it. Which makes it the most complete piece I've read on IP routing.
Dagger2 3y ago
It's not really, it just spends a lot of time waffling on about bus networks and mobile IPs and then makes some weird claims about the IETF that don't seem to match reality. v6 is designed the way it is precisely because it needs to run on the same networks that v4 does, and v6 is a better design than v4 in our world because our world has completely outgrown v4.

menotyou 3y ago

This. I still keep IPv6 turned of in my local network at home.

kmbfjr 3y ago

Not trying to be a smartass, but managing DNS at scale IS a solved problem. Maybe change tooling? IPv6 is awful, but it is what it is and I appreciate the death of NAT.

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
Speaking of managing at scale and splitting well: the reverse lookup domain name corresponding to the address 4321:0:1:2:3:4:567:89ab would be b.a.9.8.7.6.5.0.4.0.0.0.3.0.0.0.2.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1.2.3.4.IP6. ARPA. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3596#section-2.5 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3596#section-2.5

apearson 3y ago

Hex: 2001:db8:abcd:efab::1 Decimal: 32.1.13.184.171.205.239.171.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1 Hex looks easier to me. Plus it has the upside of splitting well on /64, /60, /56, /48, /32 which are the common cidr splits in IPv6. Can you split the decimal on a /56 in your head? I always have to use a cidr calculator for IPv4 (/27, /28, /22) but never with IPv6.

JackSlateur 3y ago

What ? You learn IPv4 using dot-decimal ? What a noob ! Could not you learn all the IP as numbers, like a real man ?