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Mozilla was awesome when I started Web programming in 2009. Remember Firebug? But then Chrome came out and the rest is history. Nowadays Mozilla fumbles and co

Mozilla was awesome when I started Web programming in 2009. Remember Firebug? But then Chrome came out and the rest is history. Nowadays Mozilla fumbles and complains. Maybe rightly so. I'm just tired of it.

echelon 3y ago
Chrome had billions of advertising dollars to back it. Then Chrome directed more people into their ad funnel as the default action. Then Google started buying up more glass and real estate. More people to shove though. Now websites don't run in Firefox. (One of my lawyer's websites doesn't!) Now Cookies and web standards are changing so Google is the only arbiter of targeted online ads. It's time for anti-trust!
- jwells89 3y ago
  Google bought their way into a lot of software bundling deals too. From time to time I still encounter Windows installers that try to install Chrome alongside whatever the main program is.
- threeseed 3y ago
  People don't understand that Chrome is purpose built for advertising. It allows first-party cookies to live for over a year which are used for re-targeting and building behavioural profiles. It recklessly incorporates every API under the sun which advertisers use for fingerprinting with 99% accuracy. And despite it being insidious and a major invasion of privacy Google still happily partners with companies who use it. And now people who are completely ignorant about how their data is being used are jumping up and data for this behaviour to extend to all mobile devices.
clouddrover 3y ago
> Remember Firebug? What was Firebug is now built in to Firefox: https://getfirebug.com/ https://getfirebug.com/ What are the compelling advantages of Chrome nowadays? Chrome is working to limit the capabilities of ad blockers: https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2023/11/chrome-pushes-forward-with-plans-to-limit-ad-blockers-in-the-future https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2023/11/chrome-pushes... Whereas a compelling advantage of Firefox is its support for uBlock Origin. uBlock Origin works best in Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b... Advertising networks have often been vectors for malware. Using an ad blocker is an important security measure. Even the FBI recommends ad blockers: https://www.malwarebytes.com/malvertising https://www.malwarebytes.com/malvertising https://theconversation.com/spyware-can-infect-your-phone-or-computer-via-the-ads-you-see-online-report-213685 https://theconversation.com/spyware-can-infect-your-phone-or... https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221?=8324278624 https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221?=8324278624

echelon 3y ago

Chrome had billions of advertising dollars to back it. Then Chrome directed more people into their ad funnel as the default action. Then Google started buying up more glass and real estate. More people to shove though. Now websites don't run in Firefox. (One of my lawyer's websites doesn't!) Now Cookies and web standards are changing so Google is the only arbiter of targeted online ads. It's time for anti-trust!

jwells89 3y ago
Google bought their way into a lot of software bundling deals too. From time to time I still encounter Windows installers that try to install Chrome alongside whatever the main program is.
threeseed 3y ago
People don't understand that Chrome is purpose built for advertising. It allows first-party cookies to live for over a year which are used for re-targeting and building behavioural profiles. It recklessly incorporates every API under the sun which advertisers use for fingerprinting with 99% accuracy. And despite it being insidious and a major invasion of privacy Google still happily partners with companies who use it. And now people who are completely ignorant about how their data is being used are jumping up and data for this behaviour to extend to all mobile devices.

clouddrover 3y ago

> Remember Firebug? What was Firebug is now built in to Firefox: https://getfirebug.com/ https://getfirebug.com/ What are the compelling advantages of Chrome nowadays? Chrome is working to limit the capabilities of ad blockers: https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2023/11/chrome-pushes-forward-with-plans-to-limit-ad-blockers-in-the-future https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2023/11/chrome-pushes... Whereas a compelling advantage of Firefox is its support for uBlock Origin. uBlock Origin works best in Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b... Advertising networks have often been vectors for malware. Using an ad blocker is an important security measure. Even the FBI recommends ad blockers: https://www.malwarebytes.com/malvertising https://www.malwarebytes.com/malvertising https://theconversation.com/spyware-can-infect-your-phone-or-computer-via-the-ads-you-see-online-report-213685 https://theconversation.com/spyware-can-infect-your-phone-or... https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221?=8324278624 https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221?=8324278624