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I ride a 750 pound motorcycle. It has similar issues with chewing through tires unless you get a super long life, hard compound tire, which has its drawbacks on
by I_Am_Nous 3y ago
I ride a 750 pound motorcycle. It has similar issues with chewing through tires unless you get a super long life, hard compound tire, which has its drawbacks on grip for cornering and braking. However I cannot lie to myself or anyone about how heavy it is. If it lays down, I have to pick up 750 pounds worth of bike.
No such option with EVs though. If your vehicle is nearly a ton heavier than a similarly sized ICE vehicles, you may never think about how that weight affects things and then comes the surprise that it affects all kinds of things.
EVs are cool. They are not a 1:1 replacement for ICE yet.
- TheChaplain 3y agoWhat kind of bike is that? A Softail is ~630 and that is huge imho
- mschuster91 3y agoI wouldn't be surprised if they drive something like a Honda Goldwing - the undisputed Big Chungus of the motorcycle world, clocking in at up to 800 pounds [1]. [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Gold_Wing https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Gold_Wing
- I_Am_Nous 3y agoYou called it pretty close, it's a Goldwing competitor, the Kawasaki Voyager XII - 1200cc inline 4 cylinder. Half the engine that's in my Jeep Renegade lmao
- I_Am_Nous 3y agoKawasaki Voyager XII, as someone commented to you it's a Goldwing sized touring bike with an inline 4 cylinder 1200cc engine. It shares a lot of blood with the Ninja so it's quite a fun bike even for its size, very maneuverable.
- vr46 3y agoI had to convert that but yes, that is a very heavy bike. I have a 1200RT and yours is 100 kg heavier, goodness knows on what. I know that the Michelin Road 6 comes in GT versions with an extra ply for heavier bikes - maybe that's actually for yours and not mine!
- I_Am_Nous 3y agoMost people ride Michelin Commanders on these bikes (Kawasaki Voyager XII) but even the stock tires had sidewalls which cause low speed wobbles and unexpected handlebar locking right as you start to put your foot down. The front tire just doesn't have enough strength for the weight of the bike lol
- vr46 3y agoThat’s pretty nuts, I thought those were cruiser tyres specifically with softer sidewalls, whereas sports tourer tyres have those stiff sidewalls for better handling. I think all the K1600s I’ve seen, similar weight, had Metzler Roadtecs or Z8s on (great tyre BTW, always rated a Metzler front tyre, even if they wore out quicker than the Michelin, lovely while they last). Still, sounds like an interesting characteristic to get used to. Always wanted a go on a really massive cruiser/tourer, but I struggled with my tutor/observer’s Pan European, made me realize that the RT’s design was a lot cleverer than I thought.
- defrost 3y agoHere's a fun bit of local touring for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL44EAyz8Qc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL44EAyz8Qc re: tyres and lifespan- https://youtu.be/XRATedP6SGw?t=571 https://youtu.be/XRATedP6SGw?t=571
- bryanlarsen 3y agoEV's are nowhere close to "nearly a ton heavier". The Ford Lightning with the long range battery are about 1,000 pounds heavier than a gasoline F-150 SuperCrew. A Telsa Model 3 is about 400 pounds heavier than a BMW 3.
- I_Am_Nous 3y agoObviously there's variance between models but comparing the Hummer EV to the H3 it's nearly double the weight, nearly two tons heavier.
- asadotzler 3y agoHummer EV isn't really a representative EV though, is it? There are less than 3,000 EV Hummers on the road, compared to, for example, almost a million Tesla Model 3s. The Model 3 battery is about 1,000 lbs.