4 ms·

What’s the problem with it? It seems like one of the better faster improving products I use on a daily basis.

blibble 3y ago
there's that hilarious video where they boast the complete rewrite only takes 9 seconds to open and only 1.2 seconds to switch chats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT7nnXej2K4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT7nnXej2K4 what is it even doing? both should be instant mIRC opened instantly on a 1995 PC
- probably_satan 3y ago
  Lol remember when Microsoft tried to re-invent IRC in the 90s? How long has Microsoft been failing at IRC now (which is basically what web chat is) Microsoft excels only at stealing existing tech, doing a horrible job at it, rebranding it as their own and then engaging in predatory litigation to try to steal the rights to it. I mean they aren't the only ones who do that, but at least make it better in some way
  - ratg13 3y ago
    Disagree. ComicChat was a great product, and a great way to introduce non-tech people to IRC.
- lostlogin 3y ago
  > there's that hilarious video It’s was just painful, and then I saw that the account holder is Microsoft. Is this correct? That’s like a messed up version of Apple’s ‘it’s 75% faster’ graphs but with more of your time wasted watching a video showing how bad they were and and still are.
lostlogin 3y ago
Try a call with several participants where one has a low speed connection. Try open a Word doc. The layout is screwed, or is it? Online Word, the app and Teams all show it differently. Try drag and drop a document onto it on a Mac - that’s broken (may have been fixed in last update). Try have the app respond in less than 3 seconds after a click, on a gigabit connection. Try download a large folder from Teams. Good luck - it will crap out. Every day is another paper cut. I don’t have a better platform to go to but I do wonder if a network share and any other chat app would replace Teams, and we are looking into that.
MattPalmer1086 3y ago
Let's see... 1) Slow UI. Doesn't always show the latest thing I've typed unless I leave the chat and come back to it. 2) Constantly nags me that I am muted. Close the window and it pops up another one. 3) Notifies me of completely irrelevant things like a person was added to a meeting as if it was a chat message. 4) Meetings and calling seem to rely on some kind of peer to peer system that can break horribly with out anyway to diagnose the issue (e.g. works differently depending on how you access a meeting or call).

there's that hilarious video where they boast the complete rewrite only takes 9 seconds to open and only 1.2 seconds to switch chats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT7nnXej2K4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT7nnXej2K4 what is it even doing? both should be instant mIRC opened instantly on a 1995 PC

probably_satan 3y ago
Lol remember when Microsoft tried to re-invent IRC in the 90s? How long has Microsoft been failing at IRC now (which is basically what web chat is) Microsoft excels only at stealing existing tech, doing a horrible job at it, rebranding it as their own and then engaging in predatory litigation to try to steal the rights to it. I mean they aren't the only ones who do that, but at least make it better in some way
- ratg13 3y ago
  Disagree. ComicChat was a great product, and a great way to introduce non-tech people to IRC.
lostlogin 3y ago
> there's that hilarious video It’s was just painful, and then I saw that the account holder is Microsoft. Is this correct? That’s like a messed up version of Apple’s ‘it’s 75% faster’ graphs but with more of your time wasted watching a video showing how bad they were and and still are.

lostlogin 3y ago

Try a call with several participants where one has a low speed connection. Try open a Word doc. The layout is screwed, or is it? Online Word, the app and Teams all show it differently. Try drag and drop a document onto it on a Mac - that’s broken (may have been fixed in last update). Try have the app respond in less than 3 seconds after a click, on a gigabit connection. Try download a large folder from Teams. Good luck - it will crap out. Every day is another paper cut. I don’t have a better platform to go to but I do wonder if a network share and any other chat app would replace Teams, and we are looking into that.

MattPalmer1086 3y ago

Let's see... 1) Slow UI. Doesn't always show the latest thing I've typed unless I leave the chat and come back to it. 2) Constantly nags me that I am muted. Close the window and it pops up another one. 3) Notifies me of completely irrelevant things like a person was added to a meeting as if it was a chat message. 4) Meetings and calling seem to rely on some kind of peer to peer system that can break horribly with out anyway to diagnose the issue (e.g. works differently depending on how you access a meeting or call).