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This is the American dream. Software patents, plant patents, patenting straightforward things, patent trolls. Not to mention sick health care system. I once wan

This is the American dream. Software patents, plant patents, patenting straightforward things, patent trolls. Not to mention sick health care system. I once wanted to move to US, but many years ago realized it's a sick country.

fransje26 3y ago
I think this illustrates it perfectly: > Goldman Sachs Asks 'Is Curing Patients A Sustainable Business Model?' https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/goldman-sachs-curing-patients-health-industry-report/ https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/goldman-sachs-curing-pa...
- refurb 3y ago
  It is a viable business model. Look at the cure for hepatitis C. It was the highest selling drug ever before Ozempic came along.
  - MSFT_Edging 3y ago
    I don't think the person you were replying to was literally asking the question. It's a matter of gatekeeping health for a profit and how quickly it becomes infinitely corrupt. We're allowing society to degrade to protect the profit.
    - refurb 3y ago
      > It's a matter of gatekeeping health for a profit and how quickly it becomes infinitely corrupt. Your statement isn't really saying anything. "infinitely corrupt"? What does that even mean?
happytiger 3y ago
Ginkgo Bioworks. Syngenta. Bayer. Recombinetics. Heck, JoynBio. The companies leading this charge are global, not just US-based. It’s a mistake to try to pin this on one country. Agribusiness companies are deploying digital on farms everywhere in the world in a very clear effort to gather data on all aspects of farming: soil health, labor, weather, inputs, etc, and specifically including genetics on the world’s most critical crop seeds and livestock. They are quietly vacuuming up and locking up the knowledge of farmers. All the data then gets to be owned and controlled by corporations, analyzed with AI and proprietary algorithms, and then sold back to farmers with “prescriptions” for how to farm and which products to buy. This all happens with very little transparency or explanation. The massively hyper-consolidated food and agriculture systems is a massive issue and I don’t think people realize just how extensive it’s become in just the last 5-10 years. But to call it a “US sickness” denies the very global nature of the companies doing the work. It’s not US specific unfortunately, though certain there is plenty of US company involvement.
- j-bos 3y ago
  Reminds me of how Egypt was THE breadbasket for centuries by means of it's strong administative system. But when the bureuacracy came apart, the system collapsed more completely than expected, because farmers had been totally dependent on the the administration for all decisions, let alone logistics. Of course I may be misremembering, anyone have a citation?
  - peteradio 3y ago
    I think they had some trouble with God and got smited with all sorts of plagues and stuff[0]. [0] Bible.

fransje26 3y ago

I think this illustrates it perfectly: > Goldman Sachs Asks 'Is Curing Patients A Sustainable Business Model?' https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/goldman-sachs-curing-patients-health-industry-report/ https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/goldman-sachs-curing-pa...

refurb 3y ago
It is a viable business model. Look at the cure for hepatitis C. It was the highest selling drug ever before Ozempic came along.
- MSFT_Edging 3y ago
  I don't think the person you were replying to was literally asking the question. It's a matter of gatekeeping health for a profit and how quickly it becomes infinitely corrupt. We're allowing society to degrade to protect the profit.
  - refurb 3y ago
    > It's a matter of gatekeeping health for a profit and how quickly it becomes infinitely corrupt. Your statement isn't really saying anything. "infinitely corrupt"? What does that even mean?

happytiger 3y ago

Ginkgo Bioworks. Syngenta. Bayer. Recombinetics. Heck, JoynBio. The companies leading this charge are global, not just US-based. It’s a mistake to try to pin this on one country. Agribusiness companies are deploying digital on farms everywhere in the world in a very clear effort to gather data on all aspects of farming: soil health, labor, weather, inputs, etc, and specifically including genetics on the world’s most critical crop seeds and livestock. They are quietly vacuuming up and locking up the knowledge of farmers. All the data then gets to be owned and controlled by corporations, analyzed with AI and proprietary algorithms, and then sold back to farmers with “prescriptions” for how to farm and which products to buy. This all happens with very little transparency or explanation. The massively hyper-consolidated food and agriculture systems is a massive issue and I don’t think people realize just how extensive it’s become in just the last 5-10 years. But to call it a “US sickness” denies the very global nature of the companies doing the work. It’s not US specific unfortunately, though certain there is plenty of US company involvement.

j-bos 3y ago
Reminds me of how Egypt was THE breadbasket for centuries by means of it's strong administative system. But when the bureuacracy came apart, the system collapsed more completely than expected, because farmers had been totally dependent on the the administration for all decisions, let alone logistics. Of course I may be misremembering, anyone have a citation?
- peteradio 3y ago
  I think they had some trouble with God and got smited with all sorts of plagues and stuff[0]. [0] Bible.