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> Sucky platforms that were never good enough, always some weird piece of software that you thought was benign gunking up your system. This is a category error

> Sucky platforms that were never good enough, always some weird piece of software that you thought was benign gunking up your system. This is a category error. Your iPhone isn't more stable because Apple charges a premium to developers so that they can invite you to use their apps, it's more stable because of all of the good decisions they make technically around the platform. Your iPhone isn't more stable because Apple refuses to allow competition to their apps. Just like you mentioned elsewhere, if you don't want third party apps, do not install them. Please do not come for my freedom to run the apps I please. Don't piss on me and call it rain. Your Mac is also a very nice experience, but Apple isn't gouging and restricting the developers of your favorite Mac apps (much), so no one is complaining about MacOS.

scarface_74 3y ago
And Zoom installed a secret backdoor web server on the Mac…
- rezonant 3y ago
  Welp, company did stupid thing, time to let the OS company have 100% control and profit over the entire computer. A bit of an outsized response, no? To be clear, I disagree with Zoom's rationale (avoiding a single confirmation click when the zoom website launches zoom), and I agree with Apple automatically disabling that server for it's customers. That doesn't mean I think we should throw the baby out with the bathwater.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    No, it isn’t. It’s been proven over three decades of computing that companies - even reputable ones - will do all sorts of crap to your computer. I’m very careful what I install on my computers. I will install any random crap on iOS devices that I would never install on my computer because they are sandboxed. Not purposefully, but there was a version of Chrome where the installer would leave your Mac inoperable if you had System Integrity Protection turned off. https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/15235262/chrome-update-impacts-some-macos-systems?hl=en https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/15235262/chrome-upd... Both Google and Facebook encouraged iOS users to install developer certificates that were meant for internal employees so they could track them. Epic, the biggest whiner about App Store policies, caused a huge security vulnerability when Android users side loaded Fortnite https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/just-as-critics-feared-fortnite-for-android-came-with-an-epic-security-risk/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/just-as-critics-feared-fort... Not to mention the old school rootkits that Sony installed back in the day https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandalHave https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_roo... It should be hard and require users to jump through hoops to allow apps to break out of sandboxes

scarface_74 3y ago

And Zoom installed a secret backdoor web server on the Mac…

rezonant 3y ago
Welp, company did stupid thing, time to let the OS company have 100% control and profit over the entire computer. A bit of an outsized response, no? To be clear, I disagree with Zoom's rationale (avoiding a single confirmation click when the zoom website launches zoom), and I agree with Apple automatically disabling that server for it's customers. That doesn't mean I think we should throw the baby out with the bathwater.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  No, it isn’t. It’s been proven over three decades of computing that companies - even reputable ones - will do all sorts of crap to your computer. I’m very careful what I install on my computers. I will install any random crap on iOS devices that I would never install on my computer because they are sandboxed. Not purposefully, but there was a version of Chrome where the installer would leave your Mac inoperable if you had System Integrity Protection turned off. https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/15235262/chrome-update-impacts-some-macos-systems?hl=en https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/15235262/chrome-upd... Both Google and Facebook encouraged iOS users to install developer certificates that were meant for internal employees so they could track them. Epic, the biggest whiner about App Store policies, caused a huge security vulnerability when Android users side loaded Fortnite https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/just-as-critics-feared-fortnite-for-android-came-with-an-epic-security-risk/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/just-as-critics-feared-fort... Not to mention the old school rootkits that Sony installed back in the day https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandalHave https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_roo... It should be hard and require users to jump through hoops to allow apps to break out of sandboxes