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Yep. I’m completely over the utter hubris of these computer nerds that have deluded themselves into thinking that this time it’ll be different, that this is the
by cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
Yep. I’m completely over the utter hubris of these computer nerds that have deluded themselves into thinking that this time it’ll be different, that this is the entrypoint to their techno-utopia, instead of looking at the reality of what this is going to mean for users, including them.
I like that I can use Firefox on my Mac, and that I only very rarely come across something that doesn’t work and DOES in Chrome. I’m aware of the reality that Mobile Safari is the biggest thing standing in the way of Google just doing whatever they want with web “standards”, regardless what bureaucracy fetishists say about there being “other members” in standards bodies. I see the prospect of Blink (or whatever it’s called now) on iOS as a threat to the browser ecosystem. And as a web developer I’m just flat-out tired by the mere thought of having to go through another IE.
But hey, I’m glad that we are getting all this to briefly allow some freedom-loving nerds to play make-believe and enjoy a couple of years of Firefox on their devices before they start seeing sites break.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 3y agoI'm trying to think of a time that something has ONLY worked on Chrome on my Mac in recent times and I honestly cannot think of one. Actually there was one: When I booked PeruRail a couple of years ago, the booking site only worked on Chrome. Otherwise in the exceedingly rare times that Firefox doesn't work, switching to Safari does.
- aragilar 3y agoSwitching to Safari works because iOS only had Safari.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 3y agoRight but we are talking about MacOS here not iOS. And FWIW because of that I just straight up couldn’t book PeruRail on my phone I had to do it from my Mac
- amlib 3y agoEven if bringing down Apple's walled garden ends up strengthening chrome, don't you think we should be trying to solve this problem at the source? Maybe the solution is to break up google (usually a messy affair), or maybe we should all agree on a fork of chrome that has full community support, is shielded from google's menacing changes and is adopted by all current chrome derivatives (like brave, vivaldi, opera, etc). Heck, call it khtml2 and give governance of this project back to the KDE folks (with of course the whole FOSS community helping and backing it, they obviously can't do this alone). Maybe even Mozilla could throw the towel and use this new engine without having to give up control of the web to google.
- aragilar 3y agoWho's "we"? Google controls Android and Chrom(e/ium). Unless all Android OEMs switch to your engine (why would they?), and you somehow get a bigger developer base, upstream Chromium (and hence Chrome and Google) sets the ecosystem.