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> Israel is doing what it can to limit civilian casualties while destroying Hamas. You should really read the parent article at the top of the page. It doesn't

> Israel is doing what it can to limit civilian casualties while destroying Hamas. You should really read the parent article at the top of the page. It doesn't support this statement and the court ruling was created from a mountain of evidence.

Sabinus 3y ago
How close does it come to intentionally targeting civilians?
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
  They hunted down, shot, and killed multiple of their own, underwear-clad civilian citizens who were all the while waving white flags and loudly surrendering in hebrew [0] Imagine the sort of intentional targeting we don't get to see, because the journalists are killed [1] or the internet is cut [2] or the power is cut [3] or because everyone hiding is terrified to even move, knowing anything moving will be shot on sight [4], even surrendering Israeli hostages [0]. What a nightmare. Known (indeed, willing) indiscriminate killing of civilians (especially in civilian areas, yikes) is as much a war crime [5] as "intentionally targeting civilians", even if one shouts "get out of there!" or "human shields!" or "terrorists!" or "it's comin' right for us!" in a Calvinball-style declaration whilst doing it. For more detailed analysis of how Israel seems to be ignoring their obligation to protect Palestinian civilians, I recommend consulting the full ruling [6] from the ICJ, the literal judges of this matter. 0: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/04/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-rules-of-engagement-hostages.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/04/world/middleeast/israel-h... 1: https://cpj.org/2024/01/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/ https://cpj.org/2024/01/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-... 2: https://www.wired.com/story/israel-gaza-internet-blackouts-weapon/ https://www.wired.com/story/israel-gaza-internet-blackouts-w... 3: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67073970 https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67073970 4: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/16/middleeast/idf-sniper-gaza-church-deaths-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/16/middleeast/idf-sniper-gaza-ch... 5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiscriminate_attack#The_1977_Additional_Protocols_to_the_Geneva_Conventions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiscriminate_attack#The_1977... 6 (PDF warning): https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240126-ord-01-00-en.pdf https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192...

Sabinus 3y ago

How close does it come to intentionally targeting civilians?

ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
They hunted down, shot, and killed multiple of their own, underwear-clad civilian citizens who were all the while waving white flags and loudly surrendering in hebrew [0] Imagine the sort of intentional targeting we don't get to see, because the journalists are killed [1] or the internet is cut [2] or the power is cut [3] or because everyone hiding is terrified to even move, knowing anything moving will be shot on sight [4], even surrendering Israeli hostages [0]. What a nightmare. Known (indeed, willing) indiscriminate killing of civilians (especially in civilian areas, yikes) is as much a war crime [5] as "intentionally targeting civilians", even if one shouts "get out of there!" or "human shields!" or "terrorists!" or "it's comin' right for us!" in a Calvinball-style declaration whilst doing it. For more detailed analysis of how Israel seems to be ignoring their obligation to protect Palestinian civilians, I recommend consulting the full ruling [6] from the ICJ, the literal judges of this matter. 0: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/04/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-rules-of-engagement-hostages.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/04/world/middleeast/israel-h... 1: https://cpj.org/2024/01/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/ https://cpj.org/2024/01/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-... 2: https://www.wired.com/story/israel-gaza-internet-blackouts-weapon/ https://www.wired.com/story/israel-gaza-internet-blackouts-w... 3: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67073970 https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67073970 4: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/16/middleeast/idf-sniper-gaza-church-deaths-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/16/middleeast/idf-sniper-gaza-ch... 5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiscriminate_attack#The_1977_Additional_Protocols_to_the_Geneva_Conventions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiscriminate_attack#The_1977... 6 (PDF warning): https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240126-ord-01-00-en.pdf https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192...