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Contrary opinion: deep fakes are actually good for any person who has had nudes leaked because anyone can credibly claim they are faked

jruohonen 3y ago
That's one way of looking at it. But note: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38237543 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38237543
- labrador 3y ago
  I was restricting my comment to the issue of nudes. I haven't yet thought about other implictations, but this is interesting.
  - jruohonen 3y ago
    > I was restricting my comment to the issue of nudes. These are truly bad, I agree. Yet, I am little unsure whether even vigorous regulation or restrictive access controls will be able to tackle the issue. To push your envelope even further: maybe the infamous 'flooding of the zone' [with more intentional fakes] might work here? An analogous idea has been put forward with respect to really bad data breaches.
BlueTemplar 3y ago
Yeah, we've had AI (= made with the help of a machine, specifically a computer) NON-deep fakes for several decades now already. I guess the main difference here is indeed that a lot of people are somehow still not aware that it's a possibility ? I guess they have missed Al Gore's warning from 4 years ago ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM And in this specific case, I'm not sure that the technic used is of any relevance, since again, this kind of /b/tard(-like?) trolling (and counter-trolling) could also have happened without the use of neural network software : this is more about social networks, and Xitter specifically, being the usual cesspools. (The use of fake-Taylor Swift's likeness for ads is IMHO more problematic, but with the same caveats, and also likely easier to police, since there's a money trail for law enforcement to follow.)
- labrador 3y ago
  It used to take real skill to make a convincing fake but now anyone can upload a photo and push a button to "remove clothing" so it takes no skill at all (I'm guessing) so the barrier to entry has been lowered to nothing. This makes it easier to believe it's fake.

jruohonen 3y ago

That's one way of looking at it. But note: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38237543 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38237543

labrador 3y ago
I was restricting my comment to the issue of nudes. I haven't yet thought about other implictations, but this is interesting.
- jruohonen 3y ago
  > I was restricting my comment to the issue of nudes. These are truly bad, I agree. Yet, I am little unsure whether even vigorous regulation or restrictive access controls will be able to tackle the issue. To push your envelope even further: maybe the infamous 'flooding of the zone' [with more intentional fakes] might work here? An analogous idea has been put forward with respect to really bad data breaches.

BlueTemplar 3y ago

Yeah, we've had AI (= made with the help of a machine, specifically a computer) NON-deep fakes for several decades now already. I guess the main difference here is indeed that a lot of people are somehow still not aware that it's a possibility ? I guess they have missed Al Gore's warning from 4 years ago ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM And in this specific case, I'm not sure that the technic used is of any relevance, since again, this kind of /b/tard(-like?) trolling (and counter-trolling) could also have happened without the use of neural network software : this is more about social networks, and Xitter specifically, being the usual cesspools. (The use of fake-Taylor Swift's likeness for ads is IMHO more problematic, but with the same caveats, and also likely easier to police, since there's a money trail for law enforcement to follow.)

labrador 3y ago
It used to take real skill to make a convincing fake but now anyone can upload a photo and push a button to "remove clothing" so it takes no skill at all (I'm guessing) so the barrier to entry has been lowered to nothing. This makes it easier to believe it's fake.