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this is 100% False in the US anyway, you are barred by law from laying new Pipes or Electric lines, etc. There are complex regulations and laws governing acce

this is 100% False in the US anyway, you are barred by law from laying new Pipes or Electric lines, etc. There are complex regulations and laws governing access to easements, internet is the one thing that has been allowed to have competitive access to these utility easements and I have access to multiple physical communications lines to my property. The idea that no company would consider running additional electric lines if granted the opportunity is non-sense.

notahacker 3y ago
Granted the opportunity to run additional electric wires everywhere by whom? Something's got to compel landowners to give unfettered access to their property to run wires and pipes to other properties and that something isn't market forces. (It isn't market forces that means the monopoly provider of wired telephony in my area has to permit multiple ISPs to use their wire either...) Or abolish land as property as an evil state construct, I guess, but I haven't heard of any right-libertarians that want to do that (or seen anywhere with limited property rights that has an abundance of utilities to choose from...)
- phpisthebest 3y ago
  >> I guess, but I haven't heard of any right-libertarians that want to do that Well this is conversation is about libertarians, not "right-libertarians", I am more of Geo-Libertarian >>Something's got to compel landowners to give unfettered access to their property to run wires and pipes to other properties Yes it is called a voluntary agreement built into the title of the property (aka convents) normally when a subdivision of land is created, where by utility paths laid out by the developer. Subsequent purchasers of the land must agree to these convents, including utility easements, when they buy the property. government is not required for that.
  - notahacker 3y ago
    If you're building your own power and sewerage stations, you're going to have to build across a lot more than just residential subdivisions with handy built in covenants... Oh, and covenants are entirely unenforceable without government anyway.

notahacker 3y ago

Granted the opportunity to run additional electric wires everywhere by whom? Something's got to compel landowners to give unfettered access to their property to run wires and pipes to other properties and that something isn't market forces. (It isn't market forces that means the monopoly provider of wired telephony in my area has to permit multiple ISPs to use their wire either...) Or abolish land as property as an evil state construct, I guess, but I haven't heard of any right-libertarians that want to do that (or seen anywhere with limited property rights that has an abundance of utilities to choose from...)

phpisthebest 3y ago
>> I guess, but I haven't heard of any right-libertarians that want to do that Well this is conversation is about libertarians, not "right-libertarians", I am more of Geo-Libertarian >>Something's got to compel landowners to give unfettered access to their property to run wires and pipes to other properties Yes it is called a voluntary agreement built into the title of the property (aka convents) normally when a subdivision of land is created, where by utility paths laid out by the developer. Subsequent purchasers of the land must agree to these convents, including utility easements, when they buy the property. government is not required for that.
- notahacker 3y ago
  If you're building your own power and sewerage stations, you're going to have to build across a lot more than just residential subdivisions with handy built in covenants... Oh, and covenants are entirely unenforceable without government anyway.