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Yes, how can Mozilla possibly fund the development and maintenance of a derivative when they're so strapped for cash that the CEO makes $7,000,000 USD a year an

Yes, how can Mozilla possibly fund the development and maintenance of a derivative when they're so strapped for cash that the CEO makes $7,000,000 USD a year and after firing hundreds of developers. Cry me a river, I have no sympathies.

smoldesu 3y ago
So your logic is that Apple deserves that money instead? Or that you refuse to empathize with any company that pays well? Their complaint seems legitimate, to me. I think you're throwing around ad-hominem to discredit a valid argument.
- meepmorp 3y ago
  I think the logic is that Mozilla should spend money on developers instead of their CEO.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    Logically, throwing more developers at this issue fixes nothing. That's the problem.
    - meepmorp 3y ago
      Sure it does, those developers can work on an EU version of FF. If they're more interested in paying executive salaries than developing a product, that's a prioritization issue, not a technical one.
- palata 3y ago
  > Or that you refuse to empathize with any company that pays well? That pays well? That's an indecent salary. I'm sure many people would love to have that position for a fraction of it, and they would not do a worse job. And that's only the CEO, not all the employees.
playingalong 3y ago
How many developers you can hire for 7M? Definitely not hundreds.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  You could hire 35 developers at $200K and that would still be more than the median compensation for a developer in the US
  - Yaina 3y ago
    But realistically, you don't hire 35 developers; you also need designers, product managers, engineering managers, etc. Even if you keep all that lean, you now created a giant cost center with no additional revenue. It's an artificial financial burden imposed by Apple, and there is not even a decent argument for it.
    - Dalewyn 3y ago
      >EU enacts regulations specific (obviously) to EU >Apple takes EU specific actions to satisfy EU specific regulations Is that an indecent argument? I'm probably among the last people to defend Apple, but the only problem I'm seeing here is Mozilla complaining they can't keep paying their CEO $7,000,000.00 USD if they have to hire more developers.

smoldesu 3y ago

So your logic is that Apple deserves that money instead? Or that you refuse to empathize with any company that pays well? Their complaint seems legitimate, to me. I think you're throwing around ad-hominem to discredit a valid argument.

meepmorp 3y ago
I think the logic is that Mozilla should spend money on developers instead of their CEO.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Logically, throwing more developers at this issue fixes nothing. That's the problem.
  - meepmorp 3y ago
    Sure it does, those developers can work on an EU version of FF. If they're more interested in paying executive salaries than developing a product, that's a prioritization issue, not a technical one.
palata 3y ago
> Or that you refuse to empathize with any company that pays well? That pays well? That's an indecent salary. I'm sure many people would love to have that position for a fraction of it, and they would not do a worse job. And that's only the CEO, not all the employees.

playingalong 3y ago

How many developers you can hire for 7M? Definitely not hundreds.

scarface_74 3y ago
You could hire 35 developers at $200K and that would still be more than the median compensation for a developer in the US
- Yaina 3y ago
  But realistically, you don't hire 35 developers; you also need designers, product managers, engineering managers, etc. Even if you keep all that lean, you now created a giant cost center with no additional revenue. It's an artificial financial burden imposed by Apple, and there is not even a decent argument for it.
  - Dalewyn 3y ago
    >EU enacts regulations specific (obviously) to EU >Apple takes EU specific actions to satisfy EU specific regulations Is that an indecent argument? I'm probably among the last people to defend Apple, but the only problem I'm seeing here is Mozilla complaining they can't keep paying their CEO $7,000,000.00 USD if they have to hire more developers.