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> Compare to Android, which involves unlocking the bootloader, flashing recovery, booting into recovery, flashing an OS image, and possibly patching the image t

by Tade0 3y ago

> Compare to Android, which involves unlocking the bootloader, flashing recovery, booting into recovery, flashing an OS image, and possibly patching the image to get root. During the holiday break I installed Lineage OS on my father's 10-year-old Motorola Moto G. Turns out in order to unlock the bootloader you have to fill an online form and get a code that unlocks it via email. Additionally initially no custom recovery would install due to an outdated bootloader. I managed to patch it using a script some lone developer wrote for personal use.

charcircuit 3y ago
>Turns out in order to unlock the bootloader you have to fill an online form and get a code that unlocks it via email. This is to combat groups of people who flash malicious OS builds to phones and resell them to innocent people who have no clue the phone they got is compromised.
- okanat 3y ago
  Also many frequency bands that modern phones use are regulated, especially heavily with LTE and later due to mixings with the military and public service frequencies. The baseband chips have modifiable software that can be stored in the same flash memory. The companies are trying to avoid the blame by creating a paper trail, if someone modifies a phone to illegally broadcast protected frequencies.
- mixmastamyk 3y ago
  All phones are compromised, see the recent hardware backdoor found in iPhone.
  - charcircuit 3y ago
    Having an operating system that uploads all passwords, makes your phone into into a residential proxy, or other bad is no where comparable to the idea that phones can have security bugs. The "backdoor" you are referring to was not a backdoor as the system had to already be compromised to use it.
    - mixmastamyk 3y ago
      Not by the powers that be, no. Making a division between public criminals and private ones is amusing to say the least.
      - mixmastamyk 3y ago
        The powers that be, being Apple and now every government that actually believed there was no backdoor. As well as anyone who found the others. And the criminals able to exploit them. Anyone else?
- SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
  But now the phone is flashed, so how did this change anything?

by Tade0 3y ago

charcircuit 3y ago

>Turns out in order to unlock the bootloader you have to fill an online form and get a code that unlocks it via email. This is to combat groups of people who flash malicious OS builds to phones and resell them to innocent people who have no clue the phone they got is compromised.

okanat 3y ago
Also many frequency bands that modern phones use are regulated, especially heavily with LTE and later due to mixings with the military and public service frequencies. The baseband chips have modifiable software that can be stored in the same flash memory. The companies are trying to avoid the blame by creating a paper trail, if someone modifies a phone to illegally broadcast protected frequencies.
mixmastamyk 3y ago
All phones are compromised, see the recent hardware backdoor found in iPhone.
- charcircuit 3y ago
  Having an operating system that uploads all passwords, makes your phone into into a residential proxy, or other bad is no where comparable to the idea that phones can have security bugs. The "backdoor" you are referring to was not a backdoor as the system had to already be compromised to use it.
  - mixmastamyk 3y ago
    Not by the powers that be, no. Making a division between public criminals and private ones is amusing to say the least.
    - mixmastamyk 3y ago
      The powers that be, being Apple and now every government that actually believed there was no backdoor. As well as anyone who found the others. And the criminals able to exploit them. Anyone else?
SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
But now the phone is flashed, so how did this change anything?