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Upon reading the article, did I get it correctly that this is talking solely about the default browser choice? I.e., if I understood it right, it still won’t al

Upon reading the article, did I get it correctly that this is talking solely about the default browser choice? I.e., if I understood it right, it still won’t allow non-webkit browsers with their own browser engines. Here is the relevant quote from the article: > EU users will see a choice of browsers when they first launch Safari that can be set as the systemwide default browser. For each country, that list will contain the 12 most popular browsers from its App Store storefront displayed to the user in a random order. Again, assuming my interpretation is correct, the US users aren’t losing out on much, since they are able to install those same browsers from the App Store. They would just have one less menu to click through when setting up a new phone (because that “choose your default browser” dialog would be skipped). Note: the ability to set the default web browser app on iOS has been present since iOS14 iirc.

olliej 3y ago
I can’t speak for this article, but they’ve got a page dedicated to the rules for non-system webkit browser engines
joshstrange 3y ago
> If I understood it right, it still won’t allow non-webkit browsers with their own browser engines. No, Apple is going to allow 3rd party browser engines but initially it will be the same apps everyone has access to. Browser makers that want to use their own engine have to apply and be granted permission.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
  > Browser makers that want to use their own engine have to apply and be granted permission. Apple and their approvals. Did the EU (or the Epic v Apple judge) say anything about approvals or that they shall allow these behaviors. Don't approvals imply denials which would violate the law?
  - wpm 3y ago
    Does the law force smartphone makers to allow me to write a “Malware-R’-Us” browser for their platform?
- filoleg 3y ago
  I was talking about this article specifically, which has zero mentions of third party browser engines. Sure, Apple might have plans to allow that, and there are probably articles mentioning it. That’s not what this article is about at all tho.
  - joshstrange 3y ago
    > I was talking about this article specifically, which has zero mentions of third party browser engines. I mean this article itself doesn't talk about non-webkit browsers but just yesterday Apple said they were allowing them in the same post they talked about how they were going to presenting this screen. These things go almost hand-in-hand. Anyone who said something to the effect of "Yes, they still won't allow non-webkit browsers" would be 100% wrong, even if this article didn't cover it. > Upon reading the article, did I get it correctly that this is talking solely about the default browser choice? The answer to this is "Yes" but your next bit: > I.e., if I understood it right, it still won’t allow non-webkit browsers with their own browser engines. This part is why I said "No, ..."
  - marcellus23 3y ago
    What an odd response. Your entire comment was predicated on the assumption that Apple would not be allowing 3rd party browser engines, so I'm not sure why you're acting like it's irrelevant to point out that that's wrong. > Sure, Apple might have plans to allow that, and there are probably articles mentioning it. Not "might", they do have plans to allow that, and there are articles mentioning it.
  - cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
    Oh come on. Stop digging your heels in.

olliej 3y ago

I can’t speak for this article, but they’ve got a page dedicated to the rules for non-system webkit browser engines

joshstrange 3y ago

> If I understood it right, it still won’t allow non-webkit browsers with their own browser engines. No, Apple is going to allow 3rd party browser engines but initially it will be the same apps everyone has access to. Browser makers that want to use their own engine have to apply and be granted permission.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
> Browser makers that want to use their own engine have to apply and be granted permission. Apple and their approvals. Did the EU (or the Epic v Apple judge) say anything about approvals or that they shall allow these behaviors. Don't approvals imply denials which would violate the law?
- wpm 3y ago
  Does the law force smartphone makers to allow me to write a “Malware-R’-Us” browser for their platform?
filoleg 3y ago
I was talking about this article specifically, which has zero mentions of third party browser engines. Sure, Apple might have plans to allow that, and there are probably articles mentioning it. That’s not what this article is about at all tho.
- joshstrange 3y ago
  > I was talking about this article specifically, which has zero mentions of third party browser engines. I mean this article itself doesn't talk about non-webkit browsers but just yesterday Apple said they were allowing them in the same post they talked about how they were going to presenting this screen. These things go almost hand-in-hand. Anyone who said something to the effect of "Yes, they still won't allow non-webkit browsers" would be 100% wrong, even if this article didn't cover it. > Upon reading the article, did I get it correctly that this is talking solely about the default browser choice? The answer to this is "Yes" but your next bit: > I.e., if I understood it right, it still won’t allow non-webkit browsers with their own browser engines. This part is why I said "No, ..."
- marcellus23 3y ago
  What an odd response. Your entire comment was predicated on the assumption that Apple would not be allowing 3rd party browser engines, so I'm not sure why you're acting like it's irrelevant to point out that that's wrong. > Sure, Apple might have plans to allow that, and there are probably articles mentioning it. Not "might", they do have plans to allow that, and there are articles mentioning it.
- cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
  Oh come on. Stop digging your heels in.