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I hear a small company called Apple is making a viable alternative.

jacquesm 3y ago
Apple is by no means perfect when it comes to updating devices. https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+ota+update+breaks+phones https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+ota+update+breaks+phon... There isn't a single manufacturer that consistently gets this right, only different shades of gray.
- bdcravens 3y ago
  This is very true. Maybe it's just perception, but from the outside, it feels like Google plays the most fast and loose of the mainstream options. Samsung and Apple seem more trustworthy.
- nucleardog 3y ago
  Yes, but in terms of: > I am getting too old to have time to fiddle with this stuff and just want something that works. I definitely find the iPhone great. It _generally_ just works. If shit does break there's no fiddling... it's just broken. If it doesn't work the way you want there's no fiddling... suck it up or get a new phone. I was going to say it's like an appliance and compare it to my toaster, but I would 100% end up at my kitchen table angrily disassembling my toaster if it failed to make me breakfast one morning.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    I'm still on an older Nokia, it is 'just something that works'. It's limited enough that it isn't an distraction and it works very well as a phone.
- hbn 3y ago
  At the scale Apple operates at, if there's a widespread issue with the iPhone, it will be known. And not just reported about on tech nerd sites, it'll be on major news stations because it's potentially affecting your dad and many people you know. That's why bendgate and antennagate were such famous incidents. If Apple was having hardware and software defects at the rate of recent Pixel phones scaled to the iPhone's marketshare, it would be massive news.
  - DANmode 3y ago
    Apple users aren't as picky about what their device should be doing, or achieving. Half the time, they have no perception of, or perspective whatsoever on what's buggier than what they were previously using.
ravetcofx 3y ago
Samsung is quite reliable. I really like Dex and their overall multi-tasking capabilities
- bitwize 3y ago
  Too bad they pulled an Other OS with it.

Apple is by no means perfect when it comes to updating devices. https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+ota+update+breaks+phones https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+ota+update+breaks+phon... There isn't a single manufacturer that consistently gets this right, only different shades of gray.

bdcravens 3y ago
This is very true. Maybe it's just perception, but from the outside, it feels like Google plays the most fast and loose of the mainstream options. Samsung and Apple seem more trustworthy.
nucleardog 3y ago
Yes, but in terms of: > I am getting too old to have time to fiddle with this stuff and just want something that works. I definitely find the iPhone great. It _generally_ just works. If shit does break there's no fiddling... it's just broken. If it doesn't work the way you want there's no fiddling... suck it up or get a new phone. I was going to say it's like an appliance and compare it to my toaster, but I would 100% end up at my kitchen table angrily disassembling my toaster if it failed to make me breakfast one morning.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  I'm still on an older Nokia, it is 'just something that works'. It's limited enough that it isn't an distraction and it works very well as a phone.
hbn 3y ago
At the scale Apple operates at, if there's a widespread issue with the iPhone, it will be known. And not just reported about on tech nerd sites, it'll be on major news stations because it's potentially affecting your dad and many people you know. That's why bendgate and antennagate were such famous incidents. If Apple was having hardware and software defects at the rate of recent Pixel phones scaled to the iPhone's marketshare, it would be massive news.
- DANmode 3y ago
  Apple users aren't as picky about what their device should be doing, or achieving. Half the time, they have no perception of, or perspective whatsoever on what's buggier than what they were previously using.

ravetcofx 3y ago

Samsung is quite reliable. I really like Dex and their overall multi-tasking capabilities

bitwize 3y ago
Too bad they pulled an Other OS with it.