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Well. I certainly agree that arguing on the internet about who is a Buddhist, and who is not, is hurtful and not helping anyone. I just happen to think you are

Well. I certainly agree that arguing on the internet about who is a Buddhist, and who is not, is hurtful and not helping anyone. I just happen to think you are the one leading people down the wrong path. But so do you, of me. Seems like we understand words differently. Have different definitions of same words. You say I'm 'fundamentalist' even to point of going to Hell, then in return say the most scary extreme 'fundamentalist' things. Maybe we just mean different things by that word 'fundamentalist'. You say you are Mahayana, then say things that are not very Mahayana. Then you say for me to get a teacher. And I'm thinking, man your teacher isn't doing you any favors, you should find another. Who is right? No way to know? So. Guess there is nothing else. I think you are wrong, you think I am wrong. We can quote the same sutras endlessly and both have opposite interpretations. Can quote demographics, and 'who meditates', 'who doesn't', what is it, what is it not, as some kind of proof. Using sutras to disprove sutras, then cling to them, is kind of blowing me away. I haven't encountered something like this. I guess I just have to say, to try and help. Try to understand the sutras a bit more and less. You are very wound up in conceptual thought. And it seems to be blinding you. Sutras are to be abandoned when their purpose is done, not clung to. ""Though others may talk of the Way of the Buddhas as something to be reached by various pious practices and by sutra-study, you must have nothing to do with such ideas. "" - Huang Po

bowsamic 3y ago
Ultimately, I am actually saying things that are in line with the traditional teachings and is what Buddhism actually is among most people in the world today. You said I was perpetuating falsehoods, and all I care about right now is stating that actually I am not. All this stuff about "conceptualisation is a barrier on the path" is not really relevant. We don't even believe it is in my tradition, in fact. Next time just think a little before you accuse someone of what you did. You are the one that insisted I was wrong about the concepts of Buddhism, that's why I called you a fundamentalist. The previous comments are still there, you know? We can actually just go back and check this. Now, what do we plan to achieve in this discussion? You accused me of perpetuating falsehoods, I showed that I'm not, now you are upset. Why? I guess it's just human to not be able to accept when you are wrong. Quite sad but that's just how it is I guess. I won't reply again, for your sake. I don't want you to hurt yourself even more. I hope you have taken some education from my information at least, and have dispelled some ignorance for you. > I think you are wrong, you think I am wrong. I've proven that you are objectively wrong.
- FrustratedMonky 3y ago
  LOL ""All this stuff about "conceptualization is a barrier on the path" is not really relevant. We don't even believe it is in my tradition, in fact."" You just re-iterated a falsehood. That is a fundamental Teaching. That is part of Mahayana. Your claimed tradition. One of you're arguments was just "man everything is emptiness", but I mention 'concepts', and suddenly it isn't part of the tradition. You are going in circles. You haven't proven a single thing. You simply listed sutras and gave your own opinion. I can't believe I'm falling for a Troll. Please, if you are for real, continue studying. Maybe some clarity will arrive. But stop posting misleading statements. It can turn people away from a path that can help them.
  - bowsamic 3y ago
    Good luck on your path

bowsamic 3y ago

Ultimately, I am actually saying things that are in line with the traditional teachings and is what Buddhism actually is among most people in the world today. You said I was perpetuating falsehoods, and all I care about right now is stating that actually I am not. All this stuff about "conceptualisation is a barrier on the path" is not really relevant. We don't even believe it is in my tradition, in fact. Next time just think a little before you accuse someone of what you did. You are the one that insisted I was wrong about the concepts of Buddhism, that's why I called you a fundamentalist. The previous comments are still there, you know? We can actually just go back and check this. Now, what do we plan to achieve in this discussion? You accused me of perpetuating falsehoods, I showed that I'm not, now you are upset. Why? I guess it's just human to not be able to accept when you are wrong. Quite sad but that's just how it is I guess. I won't reply again, for your sake. I don't want you to hurt yourself even more. I hope you have taken some education from my information at least, and have dispelled some ignorance for you. > I think you are wrong, you think I am wrong. I've proven that you are objectively wrong.

FrustratedMonky 3y ago
LOL ""All this stuff about "conceptualization is a barrier on the path" is not really relevant. We don't even believe it is in my tradition, in fact."" You just re-iterated a falsehood. That is a fundamental Teaching. That is part of Mahayana. Your claimed tradition. One of you're arguments was just "man everything is emptiness", but I mention 'concepts', and suddenly it isn't part of the tradition. You are going in circles. You haven't proven a single thing. You simply listed sutras and gave your own opinion. I can't believe I'm falling for a Troll. Please, if you are for real, continue studying. Maybe some clarity will arrive. But stop posting misleading statements. It can turn people away from a path that can help them.
- bowsamic 3y ago
  Good luck on your path