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> masculinity as toxic What these influencers like Tate do not want to tell you is that masculinity can be considered as toxic for other reasons as well. For e
by timeon 3y ago
> masculinity as toxic
What these influencers like Tate do not want to tell you is that masculinity can be considered as toxic for other reasons as well. For example 'toxic masculinity' burdens men with unreasonable expectations.
- zozbot234 3y agoHard to blame "masculinity" for that when the problematic expectations are largely coming from women. Often in an entirely inadvertent way, but this does not make them any less real or consequential to the men themselves.
- asylteltine 3y ago[dead]
- supertimor 3y agoCan you elaborate on these “problematic expectations” that you say women are imposing on men?
- mablopoule 3y agoYeah but masculinity is also a good ideal to strive for, for you know, roughly half of the population. The key is that it's not the only ideal men (or women !) can strive for, and there are people blurring the lines, which is absolutely fine. I find Tate to be absolutely repugnant, and he clearly represent some of worst aspect of what 'masculinity' is associated to, but to his credits he also represent strength, assertiveness, drive, and even spirituality (with his recent conversion), which are values that aren't found in a lot of other place not associated with 'conservative' nowadays.