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If states so strongly feel the need to execute someone, why go through all these hoops to pretend to make it look "humane?" Just use a firing squad and be hones

If states so strongly feel the need to execute someone, why go through all these hoops to pretend to make it look "humane?" Just use a firing squad and be honest (and actually effective) about what you're doing.

me_me_me 3y ago
because you are forcing people to execute people directly, even though you give concealed blanks to shooters so they can cope by pretending they were the ones with blanks. Death sentences make no sense anyway, they cost more than indefinite incarceration.
- yodon 3y ago
  Citation on cost?
  - Daviey 3y ago
    I feel it is widely accepted that it is indeed more expensive, and the first page of a google search provides quite a bit of material that substantiates this. However, someone that is truly against it will always find a way of discrediting it. I'll share this, which should be pretty comprehensive: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/capital-punishment-or-life-imprisonment-some-cost-considerations https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/capital-... But this provides more recent aggregate data citations: https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/ https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalt... Usually in these types of discussions, the cost being more is finally accepted. Then supporters of capital punishment move onto it being an effective deterrent, which is then easily debunked.
  - Volundr 3y ago
    https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Is_the_death_penalty_more_expensive_than_life_in_prison https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Is_the_death_penalty_more... https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/crime-verify/no-the-death-penalty-is-not-cheaper-than-life-imprisonment/536-2ec7c7b1-23e7-497e-85fa-407cb3f2a1f2 https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/crime-verify/...
- deadbolt 3y ago
  Force the governor to do it.
rthnbgrredf 3y ago
As I understand it a firing squad would mean instant death, which would be more humane than struggling for 22 mins. Not sure why this method is not preferable. Full disclosure: I'm against death penalty.
- Kluggy 3y ago
  That seems like it would strongly depend on how accurate the shots are. There’s a lot of areas in the body where a gun shot isn’t instantly lethal.

me_me_me 3y ago

because you are forcing people to execute people directly, even though you give concealed blanks to shooters so they can cope by pretending they were the ones with blanks. Death sentences make no sense anyway, they cost more than indefinite incarceration.

yodon 3y ago
Citation on cost?
- Daviey 3y ago
  I feel it is widely accepted that it is indeed more expensive, and the first page of a google search provides quite a bit of material that substantiates this. However, someone that is truly against it will always find a way of discrediting it. I'll share this, which should be pretty comprehensive: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/capital-punishment-or-life-imprisonment-some-cost-considerations https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/capital-... But this provides more recent aggregate data citations: https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/ https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalt... Usually in these types of discussions, the cost being more is finally accepted. Then supporters of capital punishment move onto it being an effective deterrent, which is then easily debunked.
- Volundr 3y ago
  https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Is_the_death_penalty_more_expensive_than_life_in_prison https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Is_the_death_penalty_more... https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/crime-verify/no-the-death-penalty-is-not-cheaper-than-life-imprisonment/536-2ec7c7b1-23e7-497e-85fa-407cb3f2a1f2 https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/crime-verify/...
deadbolt 3y ago
Force the governor to do it.

rthnbgrredf 3y ago

As I understand it a firing squad would mean instant death, which would be more humane than struggling for 22 mins. Not sure why this method is not preferable. Full disclosure: I'm against death penalty.

Kluggy 3y ago
That seems like it would strongly depend on how accurate the shots are. There’s a lot of areas in the body where a gun shot isn’t instantly lethal.