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> Can I publish an application that does not use Apple IP, let’s say something written in ARM assembler? iOS apps can be written in assembly. I’ve done so myse

> Can I publish an application that does not use Apple IP, let’s say something written in ARM assembler? iOS apps can be written in assembly. I’ve done so myself out of curiosity, and it seems others have done so as well[0]. Of course, I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s excruciating. That said, isn’t this just a bad-faith argument wrapped in an attempted gotcha? Where your premise is that if you don’t have a choice, then you shouldn’t be charged? If Apple would say: “Hey, you can use Swift for free because it’s open source, and you’re welcome to benefit from our contributions to it, and while you’re at it, you’re allowed to use all the basic low-level frameworks that communicate with the OS for free as well. But anything more than that, and we want you to pay us for it.” Would you then be fully on board with them charging for using the remaining IP they own? Are IP and ownership rights fluid based on your own moral framework, depending on if one has a choice or not? Should I just blow past the toll booth of the only bridge here that allows me access to the rest of the country? How about the only ISP that provides service here? Should they just allow me to use their infrastructure so I can write you this comment? The other day I saw a nice TV at the local store. It’s pretty much the only place I can get this TV. Do I have your blessing to take it because I don’t have much of a choice? I make apps for a living, I’m literally the only place on earth where you can get my app. My app saves users a lot of money. Should people just pirate my app and force me on a diet of hardtack? Where does this fluidity start and where does it end? I thought, for better or worse (and we can spend hours debating this part alone), we decided that when someone owns something, and especially when they create something, they get to decide who, if anyone, gets to use it and at what’s price if any. 0: https://github.com/richardjrossiii/iOSAppInAssembly https://github.com/richardjrossiii/iOSAppInAssembly

tsimionescu 3y ago
The point is that Apple can't say "this fee is required to distribute out precious IP, and this is a fair price for our IP, look how happy people are to use it", while also saying "oh, and if you don't use our IP, you aren't allowed to publish an app at all". And no, this doesn't entitle others to steal the IP in question. The problem is the second part, not the first.

tsimionescu 3y ago

The point is that Apple can't say "this fee is required to distribute out precious IP, and this is a fair price for our IP, look how happy people are to use it", while also saying "oh, and if you don't use our IP, you aren't allowed to publish an app at all". And no, this doesn't entitle others to steal the IP in question. The problem is the second part, not the first.