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> All they need to do is provide a full API and let third-party native app developers do the rest of the work. The problem with this is that those apps are kin

> All they need to do is provide a full API and let third-party native app developers do the rest of the work. The problem with this is that those apps are kind of boring to make and there’s not much money in them.

lapcat 3y ago
> those apps are kind of boring to make Why? > there’s not much money in them. Enough money to sustain a big corporation? No. Enough money to sustain an indie developer? Yes.
- prepend 3y ago
  I can’t speak to everyone but they are boring to me because there’s not much of a problem to solve, just UX. And it isn’t something I need personally, so I just use the api or maybe a CLI. I just assumed lots of people think like this due to the dearth of nice UIs on top of apis.
  - lapcat 3y ago
    > I can’t speak to everyone but they are boring to me because there’s not much of a problem to solve, just UX. "just UX". I think this attitude separates you from a lot of native iOS and Mac developers, whose primary focus is UX. Indeed, one might say that's the foundation of those whole platforms. > I just assumed lots of people think like this due to the dearth of nice UIs on top of apis. What dearth? Like I said, Twitter used to have a great third-party app ecosystem before the company intentionally destroyed it.
    - prepend 3y ago
      Isn’t this article about how people make Electron apps instead of spending time in proper UIs? I think that’s part of an example of a dearth of UIs. Of course my interest in UX separates me from other developers. There are lots of people making a living doing UX. And I’m not one. But my point is, it seems like those UX people aren’t creating lots of open source projects, or commercially viable projects, to provide nice UIs on top of apis.
      - lapcat 3y ago
        > Isn’t this article about how people make Electron apps instead of spending time in proper UIs? You speak vaguely about "people" making Electron apps, but the big issue is that big companies are making Electron apps for popular web services, and the popularity of these web services is why a lot of people are complaining about the Electron apps. > it seems like those UX people aren’t creating lots of open source projects, or commercially viable projects, to provide nice UIs on top of apis. Which APIs are you talking about? It's difficult to make a commercially viable project on top of obscure or unpopular APIs. The point of my original comment is that popular APIs can generate their own native app ecosystems.

lapcat 3y ago

> those apps are kind of boring to make Why? > there’s not much money in them. Enough money to sustain a big corporation? No. Enough money to sustain an indie developer? Yes.

prepend 3y ago
I can’t speak to everyone but they are boring to me because there’s not much of a problem to solve, just UX. And it isn’t something I need personally, so I just use the api or maybe a CLI. I just assumed lots of people think like this due to the dearth of nice UIs on top of apis.
- lapcat 3y ago
  > I can’t speak to everyone but they are boring to me because there’s not much of a problem to solve, just UX. "just UX". I think this attitude separates you from a lot of native iOS and Mac developers, whose primary focus is UX. Indeed, one might say that's the foundation of those whole platforms. > I just assumed lots of people think like this due to the dearth of nice UIs on top of apis. What dearth? Like I said, Twitter used to have a great third-party app ecosystem before the company intentionally destroyed it.
  - prepend 3y ago
    Isn’t this article about how people make Electron apps instead of spending time in proper UIs? I think that’s part of an example of a dearth of UIs. Of course my interest in UX separates me from other developers. There are lots of people making a living doing UX. And I’m not one. But my point is, it seems like those UX people aren’t creating lots of open source projects, or commercially viable projects, to provide nice UIs on top of apis.
    - lapcat 3y ago
      > Isn’t this article about how people make Electron apps instead of spending time in proper UIs? You speak vaguely about "people" making Electron apps, but the big issue is that big companies are making Electron apps for popular web services, and the popularity of these web services is why a lot of people are complaining about the Electron apps. > it seems like those UX people aren’t creating lots of open source projects, or commercially viable projects, to provide nice UIs on top of apis. Which APIs are you talking about? It's difficult to make a commercially viable project on top of obscure or unpopular APIs. The point of my original comment is that popular APIs can generate their own native app ecosystems.