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The person who mentioned their issues using the bathroom in Dubai is either very brave, very naive, or knows something I don't. Dubai executes trans people, an

The person who mentioned their issues using the bathroom in Dubai is either very brave, very naive, or knows something I don't. Dubai executes trans people, and that person may not identify as trans but I'd absolutely be terrified to go there if I were visibly gender non-conforming.

nraford 3y ago
Evidence for this claim? Counterclaim: I live in Dubai, have several trans friends and colleagues who live and work here, and they have many other trans friends who come to visit frequently. Never heard a single instance or issue of this, not to mention executions. Where are you getting this crap from?
- m686 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab...
AtlasBarfed 3y ago
Why is Dubai attractive as a destination? It is a bunch of expensive malls surrounded by a desert hellscape. Is it just fun for people to be around rich oil arabian men?
- mikhailfranco 3y ago
  Yes, hot hellscape, dull expensive malls, soulless, but ... T a x F r e e and also has (expensive) alcohol, unlike Saudi (hotter, duller, more backward, no music, and no beer).
  - AtlasBarfed 3y ago
    But as a destination? What taxes do you pay as a tourist in a "normal" country, sales taxes?
    - mikhailfranco 3y ago
      T a x F r e e was about employment or starting a business. Dubai should not be a tourist destination. There is nothing there. If you want desert and desolation, with mountains, and nicer people, go to Oman. Musandam is remarkable (fjords on the Strait of Hormuz!), and usually accessed from Dubai. Hiking around Jabal Shams canyon, or Jebel Akhdar, can be tough but enchanting (apricot and rose harvests), and there are a smattering of old forts in the mountains (e.g. Nizwa). Egypt is much more famous, and rightly so. However, the best single destination in the world, not just the Arab world, is Petra (Jordan), which should certainly top any bucket list.
      - mikhailfranco 3y ago
        Here are some photos of the places mentioned, plus some in KSA: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikhailfranco/albums https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikhailfranco/albums An early morning view of The Monastery at Petra, with my poetic musings... https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikhailfranco/8579438475/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikhailfranco/8579438475/

nraford 3y ago

Evidence for this claim? Counterclaim: I live in Dubai, have several trans friends and colleagues who live and work here, and they have many other trans friends who come to visit frequently. Never heard a single instance or issue of this, not to mention executions. Where are you getting this crap from?

m686 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Arab...

AtlasBarfed 3y ago

Why is Dubai attractive as a destination? It is a bunch of expensive malls surrounded by a desert hellscape. Is it just fun for people to be around rich oil arabian men?

mikhailfranco 3y ago
Yes, hot hellscape, dull expensive malls, soulless, but ... T a x F r e e and also has (expensive) alcohol, unlike Saudi (hotter, duller, more backward, no music, and no beer).
- AtlasBarfed 3y ago
  But as a destination? What taxes do you pay as a tourist in a "normal" country, sales taxes?
  - mikhailfranco 3y ago
    T a x F r e e was about employment or starting a business. Dubai should not be a tourist destination. There is nothing there. If you want desert and desolation, with mountains, and nicer people, go to Oman. Musandam is remarkable (fjords on the Strait of Hormuz!), and usually accessed from Dubai. Hiking around Jabal Shams canyon, or Jebel Akhdar, can be tough but enchanting (apricot and rose harvests), and there are a smattering of old forts in the mountains (e.g. Nizwa). Egypt is much more famous, and rightly so. However, the best single destination in the world, not just the Arab world, is Petra (Jordan), which should certainly top any bucket list.
    - mikhailfranco 3y ago
      Here are some photos of the places mentioned, plus some in KSA: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikhailfranco/albums https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikhailfranco/albums An early morning view of The Monastery at Petra, with my poetic musings... https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikhailfranco/8579438475/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikhailfranco/8579438475/