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Why would they ever? Leaving aside the vapourware angle, Musk is an immature person who would not hesitate to turn off access to FSD if a manufacturer pissed hi

Why would they ever? Leaving aside the vapourware angle, Musk is an immature person who would not hesitate to turn off access to FSD if a manufacturer pissed him off (like if they reduced advertising on X, for example). That is a huge continuity risk. And yes, then there's the software itself...

Terr_ 3y ago
Yeah, AFAICT Tesla hasn't given any details about what the license terms would actually be, this is just Musk going: "Make me an offer and I'll think about working something out maybe." This ambiguity is pretty important given Musk's questionable history of self-promotion and construction/adherence of contracts.
gruez 3y ago
>Musk is an immature person who would not hesitate to turn off access to FSD if a manufacturer pissed him off (like if they reduced advertising on X, for example). Presumably there will be a clause in the agreement that prevents this. Musk as erratic as he is, isn't going to ignore court orders. After all, he did eventually cough up the money to buy twitter.
- COGlory 3y ago
  >Musk as erratic as he is, isn't going to ignore court orders https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-loses-bid-modify-throw-out-agreement-with-sec-over-tweets-2023-05-15/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-loses-bid-modify-thr...
  - gruez 3y ago
    From the article >A federal appeals court on Monday rejected Elon Musk's bid to modify or end his 2018 securities fraud settlement with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that required a Tesla Inc (TSLA.O), opens new tab lawyer to approve some of his tweets in advance. Appealing a court decision is nowhere close to "ignoring court orders"
- rurp 3y ago
  Elon tried like crazy to get out of the Twitter contract he signed and only caved once it was clear he would almost certainly lose in court. He has a long history of not honoring commitments to suppliers, employee severence, and more. Not to mention all of legal but gross and spiteful behavior he has shown towards companies and individuals that piss him off.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
  So there's a good chance they'd be sabotaged out of spite by a manchild, then forced to wait potentially years for a final court judgement in their favor that isn't stayed? That sounds like a bad deal to me.

Terr_ 3y ago

Yeah, AFAICT Tesla hasn't given any details about what the license terms would actually be, this is just Musk going: "Make me an offer and I'll think about working something out maybe." This ambiguity is pretty important given Musk's questionable history of self-promotion and construction/adherence of contracts.

gruez 3y ago

>Musk is an immature person who would not hesitate to turn off access to FSD if a manufacturer pissed him off (like if they reduced advertising on X, for example). Presumably there will be a clause in the agreement that prevents this. Musk as erratic as he is, isn't going to ignore court orders. After all, he did eventually cough up the money to buy twitter.

COGlory 3y ago
>Musk as erratic as he is, isn't going to ignore court orders https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-loses-bid-modify-throw-out-agreement-with-sec-over-tweets-2023-05-15/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-loses-bid-modify-thr...
- gruez 3y ago
  From the article >A federal appeals court on Monday rejected Elon Musk's bid to modify or end his 2018 securities fraud settlement with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that required a Tesla Inc (TSLA.O), opens new tab lawyer to approve some of his tweets in advance. Appealing a court decision is nowhere close to "ignoring court orders"
rurp 3y ago
Elon tried like crazy to get out of the Twitter contract he signed and only caved once it was clear he would almost certainly lose in court. He has a long history of not honoring commitments to suppliers, employee severence, and more. Not to mention all of legal but gross and spiteful behavior he has shown towards companies and individuals that piss him off.
ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
So there's a good chance they'd be sabotaged out of spite by a manchild, then forced to wait potentially years for a final court judgement in their favor that isn't stayed? That sounds like a bad deal to me.