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Why Broadcom Is Killing Off VMware's Standalone Products

25 points by ohjeez 3y ago

lioeters 3y ago
Some of the discontinued products: VMware vSphere Enterprise Plus VMware vSphere+ VMware vSphere Standard (excluding subscription) VMware vSphere ROBO VMware vSphere Scale Out VMware vSphere Desktop VMware vSphere Acceleration Kits VMware vSphere Essentials Kit VMWare vSphere Essentials Plus Kit (excluding new subscription offering) VMware vSphere Starter/Foundation VMware vSphere with Operations Management VMware vSphere Basic VMware vSphere Advanced VMware vSphere Storage Appliance VMware vSphere Hypervisor VMware Cloud Foundation (excluding new VCF subscription offering) VMware Cloud Foundation for VDI VMware Cloud Foundation for ROBO VMware SDDC Manager VMware vCenter Standard VMware vCenter Foundation VMware vSAN VMware vSAN ROBO VMware vSAN Desktop VMware HCI Kit VMware Site Recovery Manager VMware Cloud Editions/Cloud Packs VMware vCloud Suite VMware Aria Suite (formerly vRealize Suite) VMware Aria Universal Suite (formerly vRealize Cloud Universal) vMware Aria Suite Term VMware Aria Operations for Networks (formerly vRealize Network Insight) VMWare Aria Operations for Networks Universal (formerly vRealize Network Insight Universal) VMware vRealize Network Insight ROBO VMWare Aria Operations for Logs (formerly vRealize Log Insight) VMware vRealize Operations 8 Application Monitoring Add-On VMware Aria Operations VMware Aria Automation VMware Aria Automation for Secure Hosts add-on (formerly SaltStack SecOps) VMware vRealize Automation SaltStack SecOps add-on VMware Aria Operations for Integrations (formerly vRealize True Visibility Suite) VMware Cloud Director Cloud Director Service VMware NSX VMware NSX for Desktop VMware NSX ROBO VMware NSX Distributed Firewall VMware NSX Gateway Firewall VMware NSX Threat Prevention to Distributed Firewall VMware NSX Threat Prevention to Gateway Firewall VMware NSX Advanced Threat Prevention to Distributed Firewall VMware NSX Advanced Threat Prevention to Gateway Firewall VMware NSX Advanced Load Balancer (excluding Subscription, SaaS) VMware Container Networking Enterprise with Antrea VMware HCX VMware HCX+ --- From: https://www.thestack.technology/vmware-is-killing-off-56-products-including-vsphere-hypervisor-and-nsx/ https://www.thestack.technology/vmware-is-killing-off-56-pro...
pjmlp 3y ago
Lets see if Spring also gets the chop.
genman 3y ago
The culling has begun.
darkclouds 3y ago
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AtlasBarfed 3y ago
I got dinged hard for asking why all the VMWare cusomters don't go to say, VirtualBox. What I ended up learning from that wasn't necessarily that VMWare products are good, which I will take the indignant replies and downvotes that they are, I don't have them, but that Broadcom's forthcoming price hikes were going to be accepted by their rabid fanbase with grumbles but bigger checks. What's weird is that, even with AWS, what does practically every large company have as a sub-business? Accountants? Check. Marketing? CHeck. Oh, and datacenters. Lots of them. Why hasn't industry gotten together to ... ah, nevermind. I know how this ends.
- xist 3y ago
  Vmware products are quite good at scale and support enterprise features that a casual user won't need/cant use. Virtualbox is designed to be ran on a machine that is already running a desktop OS. It is designed to extend a machine. This is great for a developer. Vmware/ESXI is a bare metal hypervisor that IS the OS.It effectively partitions a computer hardware and is incredibly stable/secure. This also allows it to do fancy powerful network and storage features directly that an app inside windows/linux/mac can't do. LoB apps are certified & supported on vmware products. Like the payroll systems you get paid with? If it's running on virtualbox and it does something weird, you're probably not getting paid that week. If it's on Vmware, you better believe you can call people to have it solved asap.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  Virtual Box, is good for those that don't want to pay for stuff on local computers. It doesn't do the performance of VMWare, nor can be used as cloud hypervisor.
  - misswaterfairy 3y ago
    > Virtual Box, is good for those that don't want to pay for stuff on local computers. Be careful using it in corporate environments. I used VirtualBox at home regularly - old games that won't run on modern operating systems anymore. Being free, it worked reasonably well for that. At work I had to troubleshoot an issue with some software I couldn't side load on my usual machine as the installer complained of a newer version also installed, removing the newer version would've taken a long time and broke some of my existing projects. So I quickly installed VirtualBox, being 'free', to virtualise another copy of Windows for troubleshooting. Long story short something else came up, I couldn't get to the troubleshooting stuff so I never got around to setting up a virtual machine after installing VirtualBox. About a week later I got an email from one of our sysadmins asking whether I was still using VirtualBox. Querying why (out of curiosity, explaining my situation), apparently Oracle reached out, sniffing round for licensing fees, because they noticed I downloaded VirtualBox from their website. I didn't fill out any forms or gave Oracle my details. Work, I'm 95% sure, doesn't use Oracle products at all. I promptly removed VirtualBox after that. On my personal machine too.
Group_B 3y ago
Time for Proxmox to step up?
sdiq 3y ago
What happens to Spring and suite of family?

25 points by ohjeez 3y ago

Some of the discontinued products: VMware vSphere Enterprise Plus VMware vSphere+ VMware vSphere Standard (excluding subscription) VMware vSphere ROBO VMware vSphere Scale Out VMware vSphere Desktop VMware vSphere Acceleration Kits VMware vSphere Essentials Kit VMWare vSphere Essentials Plus Kit (excluding new subscription offering) VMware vSphere Starter/Foundation VMware vSphere with Operations Management VMware vSphere Basic VMware vSphere Advanced VMware vSphere Storage Appliance VMware vSphere Hypervisor VMware Cloud Foundation (excluding new VCF subscription offering) VMware Cloud Foundation for VDI VMware Cloud Foundation for ROBO VMware SDDC Manager VMware vCenter Standard VMware vCenter Foundation VMware vSAN VMware vSAN ROBO VMware vSAN Desktop VMware HCI Kit VMware Site Recovery Manager VMware Cloud Editions/Cloud Packs VMware vCloud Suite VMware Aria Suite (formerly vRealize Suite) VMware Aria Universal Suite (formerly vRealize Cloud Universal) vMware Aria Suite Term VMware Aria Operations for Networks (formerly vRealize Network Insight) VMWare Aria Operations for Networks Universal (formerly vRealize Network Insight Universal) VMware vRealize Network Insight ROBO VMWare Aria Operations for Logs (formerly vRealize Log Insight) VMware vRealize Operations 8 Application Monitoring Add-On VMware Aria Operations VMware Aria Automation VMware Aria Automation for Secure Hosts add-on (formerly SaltStack SecOps) VMware vRealize Automation SaltStack SecOps add-on VMware Aria Operations for Integrations (formerly vRealize True Visibility Suite) VMware Cloud Director Cloud Director Service VMware NSX VMware NSX for Desktop VMware NSX ROBO VMware NSX Distributed Firewall VMware NSX Gateway Firewall VMware NSX Threat Prevention to Distributed Firewall VMware NSX Threat Prevention to Gateway Firewall VMware NSX Advanced Threat Prevention to Distributed Firewall VMware NSX Advanced Threat Prevention to Gateway Firewall VMware NSX Advanced Load Balancer (excluding Subscription, SaaS) VMware Container Networking Enterprise with Antrea VMware HCX VMware HCX+ --- From: https://www.thestack.technology/vmware-is-killing-off-56-products-including-vsphere-hypervisor-and-nsx/ https://www.thestack.technology/vmware-is-killing-off-56-pro...

pjmlp 3y ago

Lets see if Spring also gets the chop.

genman 3y ago

The culling has begun.

darkclouds 3y ago

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deleted 3y ago

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AtlasBarfed 3y ago

I got dinged hard for asking why all the VMWare cusomters don't go to say, VirtualBox. What I ended up learning from that wasn't necessarily that VMWare products are good, which I will take the indignant replies and downvotes that they are, I don't have them, but that Broadcom's forthcoming price hikes were going to be accepted by their rabid fanbase with grumbles but bigger checks. What's weird is that, even with AWS, what does practically every large company have as a sub-business? Accountants? Check. Marketing? CHeck. Oh, and datacenters. Lots of them. Why hasn't industry gotten together to ... ah, nevermind. I know how this ends.

xist 3y ago
Vmware products are quite good at scale and support enterprise features that a casual user won't need/cant use. Virtualbox is designed to be ran on a machine that is already running a desktop OS. It is designed to extend a machine. This is great for a developer. Vmware/ESXI is a bare metal hypervisor that IS the OS.It effectively partitions a computer hardware and is incredibly stable/secure. This also allows it to do fancy powerful network and storage features directly that an app inside windows/linux/mac can't do. LoB apps are certified & supported on vmware products. Like the payroll systems you get paid with? If it's running on virtualbox and it does something weird, you're probably not getting paid that week. If it's on Vmware, you better believe you can call people to have it solved asap.
pjmlp 3y ago
Virtual Box, is good for those that don't want to pay for stuff on local computers. It doesn't do the performance of VMWare, nor can be used as cloud hypervisor.
- misswaterfairy 3y ago
  > Virtual Box, is good for those that don't want to pay for stuff on local computers. Be careful using it in corporate environments. I used VirtualBox at home regularly - old games that won't run on modern operating systems anymore. Being free, it worked reasonably well for that. At work I had to troubleshoot an issue with some software I couldn't side load on my usual machine as the installer complained of a newer version also installed, removing the newer version would've taken a long time and broke some of my existing projects. So I quickly installed VirtualBox, being 'free', to virtualise another copy of Windows for troubleshooting. Long story short something else came up, I couldn't get to the troubleshooting stuff so I never got around to setting up a virtual machine after installing VirtualBox. About a week later I got an email from one of our sysadmins asking whether I was still using VirtualBox. Querying why (out of curiosity, explaining my situation), apparently Oracle reached out, sniffing round for licensing fees, because they noticed I downloaded VirtualBox from their website. I didn't fill out any forms or gave Oracle my details. Work, I'm 95% sure, doesn't use Oracle products at all. I promptly removed VirtualBox after that. On my personal machine too.

Group_B 3y ago

Time for Proxmox to step up?

sdiq 3y ago

What happens to Spring and suite of family?