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this really is getting at something important. however the question I would pose is, if the thermostat is conscious, does it have a sense of self, i.e. an ident
by therobots927 3y ago
this really is getting at something important. however the question I would pose is, if the thermostat is conscious, does it have a sense of self, i.e. an identifiable boundary between itself and the world around it? I would say not. My understanding is that humans have an identifiable region(s) of the brain that correspond to a sense of self:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_basis_of_self#:~:text=Two%20areas%20of%20the%20brain,the%20ability%20to%20self%2Dreflect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_basis_of_self#:~:text=T....
I think in a lot of these conversations people say consciousness and assume that consciousness always mirrors their own, which just so happens to come along with a sense of self for 99.9% of sober individuals. So I think it's important to distinguish between the two things.
- bumby 3y agoWould this imply that someone who claims to lose the sense of self (or seems to realize it as a hallucination) through “sober” techniques like meditation would no longer be conscious?
- therobots927 3y agoQuite the opposite. I'm saying that a sense of self is not necessary for consciousness. And that many people write off simple objects as having consciousness when really what they mean as that those objects don't have a sense of self.