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in what way would an alternative store, managed by a third party, be a cost for Apple?
by dariosalvi78 3y ago
in what way would an alternative store, managed by a third party, be a cost for Apple?
- kaba0 3y agoThe reviewing process done by apple still applies to them.
- dariosalvi78 3y agowhat review? of the app on the alternative appstores? and per install? come on...
- layer8 3y agoA review process which the DMA does not require.
- elevatedastalt 3y agoThe reviewing process that no one is asking Apple to do. What a racket this whole thing this is.
- kolinko 3y agoMany users, myself included, choose iOS because it’s free of viruses and malware - that is the benefit of the review process. If you don’t want that, you can use Android.
- tidenly 3y agoThe regulation allows for apple to still do malware scanning and blocking on apps installed even by third party stores. Google also does the same thing, this point is a nothingburger. The human review part of the app store review does nothing to catch viruses.
- KomoD 3y ago> Google does the same thing They don't block, and you can disable scanning fully.
- KomoD 3y ago> choose iOS because it’s free of viruses and malware It's not.
- hu3 3y agoTheir review process is historically flawed. And where did you heard iOS is free from viruses? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware) From the top of my head there's also AdThief and AceDeceiver. Not only that but App store is full of Anti-virus offerings.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago[flagged]
- elevatedastalt 3y agoI think you are missing the point that they want to impose this reviewing process on the off-brand App Store too
- AOsborn 3y agoI absolutely am. Part of the appeal about iOS for me is that apps are reviewed for quality and don't have obvious scams or spywear inside. I'm happy to guide my parents to use and download apps from the app store without worrying about it. Compare this to the constant education and guidance I need to provide about websites, phone calls, text messages etc. The amount of targeted scams and spam we receive nowadays is excessive. I think this is the problem: people want access to the 'app store' while forgetting/ignoring that the tight security and rigid processes are a feature, not a liability.
- holoduke 3y agoThe problem is that big publishers have different rules than the smaller ones. As a small company you an risk losing everything. Big publishers have private accountmanagers working at Apple. There are literally 1000 stories of this.
- depressedpanda 3y ago> I'm happy to guide my parents to use and download apps from the app store without worrying about it. You shouldn't be. There have been plenty of scams in the App Store.
- pantalaimon 3y agoThen stick to the official app store and don't install a third party store?
- timeon 3y agoJust let me install my own app ok? No need for review.
- bee_rider 3y agoWould you be OK with that if it voided your warranty?
- boolemancer 3y agoAs long as Apple can prove that the specific third party app caused whatever damage the warranty was supposed to be covering, sure.
- bee_rider 3y agoPlenty of viruses cover their tracks, and it is impossible realistically to protect a computer from malicious code that is run locally.
- callalex 3y agoHow would that void a warranty? By the way those stupid stickers they put over screws also don’t void warranties either. Just because a corporation says something doesn’t make it true.
- johnnyanmac 3y agoThey used to, or perhaps there used to be a case. Thankfully right to repair laws prevailed over those silly notions.
- sokoloff 3y agoIn the US, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 prevailed over those silly notions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty...
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- baobun 3y agoThe spirit (someone else may fill in with the letter) of the DMA is that this can not be enforced by Apple.
- FateOfNations 3y agoAll of the developer tools and SDKs have value and are used regardless of distribution channel. Those haven't been free, they've just been included in the App Store commission structure. Developers pay for those based on the value they generate (i.e. revenue). If you want out of the App Store as a distribution channel, Apple still expects to be compensated for the value it's developer tools and platform is providing to developers, and the €0.50 per install fee is how they are choosing to charge for those services.
- airtonix 3y ago[dead]
- johnnyanmac 3y agoOkay. So... charge more for the tools and SDK's. If you never launch an app or launch a completely free app, you still gotta pay apple. if those tools are more expensive, just push the cost where it belongs. Developers pay for being hosted on the app store on top of the tools and SDKs they access, it doesn't feel like a proper value to still be charged for that indirectly just because you don't want to be trapped in their walled garden. >Apple still expects to be compensated for the value it's developer tools and platform is providing to developers, and the €0.50 per install fee is how they are choosing to charge for those services. Well I wish them the best of luck in their future fights with the EU. Glad some government seems to not be thinking of the trillionaires first.
- int_19h 3y agoDevelopers pay for those when they pay for their dev license. (if they don't, then what is it for?)
- FateOfNations 3y agoPreviously the "developer licence" was $100/yr + an opaque revenue share that was bundled with distribution and payment processing services. Based on their new alternative business terms, we can better describe what that bundled deal includes (which is still available): • 15% tier (first $1mil/yr revenue and subscriptions after the first year): - 10% distribution - 2% developer platform - 3% payment processing • 30% tier (all other revenue): - 17% distribution - 10% developer platform - 3% payment processing