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> Apple does that makes it possible for a developer to produce a high quality app on their phone This is not one sided at all. Historically generally Apple ben

by qwytw 3y ago

> Apple does that makes it possible for a developer to produce a high quality app on their phone This is not one sided at all. Historically generally Apple benefited more from developers releasing apps on their platforms than the other way around. Arguably that's still the case. > Apple has to pay for all that somehow So by selling devices? How did they pay for developing OSX/macOS and their APIs and tools for decades? > They could also just charge a large cost for access to the SDK a la console systems, There are many exploitative and unfair things they could do because of their dominant positions in the market, yes that's correct.

ben_w 3y ago
> So by selling devices? How did they pay for developing OSX/macOS and their APIs and tools for decades? Badly. They very nearly went bankrupt with that model.
- qwytw 3y ago
  > Badly. They very nearly went bankrupt with that model. Like between 2000 and 2007? They did just fine, just like macOS is perfectly fine now.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    Like between 1993 and 2000, only really turning around because Jobs was a hard-nosed businessman. Also: is macOS "perfectly fine now"? How many people only use it because it's necessary for iOS development?
    - qwytw 3y ago
      > only really turning around because Jobs was a hard-nosed businessman. Exactly, he knew that the success of the platform relied on third party developers (NeXTSTEP was a huge improvement) > Also: is macOS "perfectly fine now"? How many people only use it because it's necessary for iOS development? I don't know? Do you? I would bet on around 5%. Although I'm not quite sure what's your point? > Like between 1993 and 2000, Which was a relatively short period, compared to their post 2000 succes.