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Speaking of that, is there a resource to figure out what GPUs work well in Linux? I loathe my workstation that is running a nvidia Quadro P620, the proprietary
by ornornor 3y ago
Speaking of that, is there a resource to figure out what GPUs work well in Linux? I loathe my workstation that is running a nvidia Quadro P620, the proprietary drivers are a joke… Looking to switch but it’s very hard to figure out the options based on a budget and Linux compatibility.
Any pointers?
- Vilian 3y agonvidia moment i rarely see complains about the amd gpus, intel a bit more because the drivers are newer, but not compared to the cluster f** that is the nvidia, and i tried
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- aappleby 3y agoI have a cheap RX 6400 and it is flawless in both Wayland and X.
- rpcope1 3y agoI have one, and I sure wouldn't recommend it beyond being a simple display driver. The real killer on that card in particular is that it, so far as I can tell, does not have any (?) video encoding/decoding acceleration whatsoever, and generally the support on AMD cards is mediocre at best until you step up to very high power cards. That's actually one of the painful parts about video on Linux, is that if you've got something that needs GPU acceleration via libav, you've got three (or four) not so nice choices: nvidia, which has good hardware support but is hit or miss if it actually works outside of their proprietary nvenc, especially for libav and vaapi; AMD, which seems to lack hardware for this on low power cards, or it's poor where it exists; Intel, where the ARC cards don't work well (or at all) if you lack resizable BAR (which means you can't use anything with any age as the host). Intel's integrated graphics is probably the best choice, but still I'd really like a discrete GPU with good Linux h264, vp9 and av1 encoding and decoding support, as it doesn't seem to exist today.
- jeroenhd 3y agoThe 6400 lacks video encoders, but it still has decoders for H.264 and H.265. VP9 decoding should also work, but it's not listed on AMD's website per se. To use these capabilities on Linux, you will need to install the correct VA-API drivers, though, and Firefox is still reluctant to enable hardware video decoding on Linux. The resizable BAR problem is annoying, but that's not limited to AMD, either. I'm not 100% sure about Intel, but if resizable BAR doesn't affect performance, that only makes me think they left some easy performance win on the table. I have to agree on Intel QuickSync, though, that's hands down the best video encode/decode solution for consumers. AV1 encoders are very recent additions to the GPU landscape, though, so you won't be able to get those on a budget. AV1 decoders are easier to obtain, and H.264/VP9 especially so.
- johnny22 3y agowhat do you mean by "a joke"? I chose not to buy nvidia due to the proprietary drivers, but I didn't think they were "a joke". In the next yearish we're likely to see decently performing open drivers via nouveau (in kernel) and nvk (in mesa) which will be really nice for fitting in with the everything else, but I doubt it will reach the same performance level as the proprietary drivers.
- Vilian 3y agoi tried running linux in my friend pc he has an 3060, was an.... interesting experience
- ornornor 3y agoI mean they don’t work well. At all. I get graphical glitches in gnome, it crashes GPU accelerated browser tabs, my logs are full of “FAULT_PTE ACCESS_TYPE_READ” errors, it freezes the displays for 30 seconds seemingly randomly. And that’s with the latest drivers available for Linux and the latest available 6.5 kernel.
- itsTyrion 3y agoI have NONE of those what the heck. I do have the long-standing issue of way too aggressive switch to 3D clocks, causing my 1070 to jump from 8 to 40W as soon as something happens on Desktop - which is not just wasteful, but also perfect to make the fans start and stop constantly -_- I’m mostly on Windows these days tho bc it’s a better fit for my daily stuff
- johnny22 3y agoIsn't that why GPU accel isn't turned on by default still? Or did that change. I myself went to AMD for my new laptop, but didn't have those problems on my current laptop with a 960M.
- Vilian 3y ago960 was running the novreau one no?
- machomaster 3y agoAmd is really your only choice. You will be fine in normal usage/gaming, but no bueno if you want to do ML since AMD naturally don't support the market leader CUDA.
- pjmlp 3y agoThey don't even support themselves in ML.
- machomaster 3y agoI have Radeon 6600xt and it was quite a struggle to make something like Whisper work with it, despite the card being supported by Amd for ML purposes. The situation is getting better (not so long ago I probably wouldn't have been able to run it at all), but yeah. But running many other ML technologies or Whisper variants is impossible because of lack of Cuda. So if you are any serious about ML, overpriced and undermemoried Nvidia is the only way to go at the moment. But if you don't care about that and only care about gaming, Amd will be the best choice for most people.
- shmerl 3y agoNo very good resources for that, but you can check GPU stats here: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics/#GPUModel-top https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics/#GPUModel-top As a rule of a thumb, use AMD.
- avhception 3y agoAnecdotal, but I've got a Radeon RX 7600 at the moment and was using an RX 580 before. Just an hour ago I played Witcher3 through Steam/Proton/Wine on my 4k TV. I haven't done any tinkering with drivers or anything, it just works out of the box even with my stupid self-compiled Gentoo kernel. The RX 580 went into the secondary box running OpenSUSE and works equally well there.
- Scramblejams 3y agoDepends on what you want to do, but for gaming I've had a good experience using the open source amdgpu drivers on an RX580 ("hey let's try AMD"), 6750 XT ("that was pretty good, let's step up!"), and 7900 XTX ("okay really now let's get serious about DCS and MSFS").
- kijiki 3y agoHow are you finding MSFS to be on Proton? I found it mostly worked, and then broke controller input about 3-4 months ago, and then partially fixed it last month. What controller or stick/throttle are you using?
- Scramblejams 3y agoMy fancy inputs are all on a Windows box, on Linux I'm using an XSX controller, though I've just started trying to change that. We'll see how it goes! Tried my CH Pro Pedals but they weren't working due to an SDL issue that should be fixed in 2.30.0. Tried plugging some VKB gear in but not all the controls were recognized, so I just got another USB controller to install in it so I'm not daisy-chaining the VKB modules anymore. Just received a Grassmonkey head tracker, but haven't had time to try it yet. Not sure if you're running flatpak Steam but I hear controller recognition works better with standard Steam. Other than the control contretemps, it's been a good experience absent the occasional Proton breakage. I stick to Experimental, FWIW.