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Ex-sheriff's deputy behind SF jail 'fight club' scandal to be rehired

31 points by yowzadave 3y ago

rollcat 3y ago
Headlines headlines. I was for a moment hoping they were actually doing the movie, setting up to undermine immoral authority, while helping people on a journey of self-discovery and battling their own demons.
darth_avocado 3y ago
Why isn’t FBI all over this? Smells of corruption. At least investigate the alleged destruction of evidence.
bobthepanda 3y ago
There truly is a parallel justice system for cops if they can just request extremely lenient arbitration.
- cool_dude85 3y ago
  The real problem is that the criminal justice system should have nailed him. If the only punishment is getting fired from a union job with the city, you're looking for justice in the wrong place.
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openasocket 3y ago
> Though Neu was criminally charged by former District Attorney George Gascón in 2016 with 17 criminal counts, these charges were dropped after the Sheriff’s Office allegedly destroyed evidence in the case; in one instance, an investigator’s laptop was smashed with a hammer, purportedly due to a virus. Was the virus the kind that infects your brain, makes you delirious, and start smashing things with a hammer? /s But seriously, if someone cost the tax payers $280,000, why should you re-hire them? The allegations here are so disturbing. If any other kind of employee did anything half as bad, they would be fired without a second thought, whether they were convicted or not, whether they were in a union or not. I can't think of a single other union or industry where employees have this much power to remain on the job.
- etc-hosts 3y ago
  it's not really a strict "re-hiring". After the fight club news came out, the employee was separated from his job. Arbitration concluded he was unlawfully separated from his job. His employee contract requires the Sheriff's Dept to give him back his previous position, since arbitration ruled firing him was invalid. I'm sure the Sheriff's Department would prefer he go far far away and never come back. It will be hilarious if the department is required to pay him his yearly salary for the last 9 years to ("hilarious" as in this sucks)
FireBeyond 3y ago
Fun fact - people often ask "why isn't there a register of fired LEOs or those who resigned in order to avoid termination?" There is, a national register. However, many (the majority, even) of police union collective bargaining agreements prohibit the use of this register for hiring or promotional reasons.
- darkwizard42 3y ago
  Do you have a link to that national register?

31 points by yowzadave 3y ago

Headlines headlines. I was for a moment hoping they were actually doing the movie, setting up to undermine immoral authority, while helping people on a journey of self-discovery and battling their own demons.

darth_avocado 3y ago

Why isn’t FBI all over this? Smells of corruption. At least investigate the alleged destruction of evidence.

bobthepanda 3y ago

There truly is a parallel justice system for cops if they can just request extremely lenient arbitration.

cool_dude85 3y ago
The real problem is that the criminal justice system should have nailed him. If the only punishment is getting fired from a union job with the city, you're looking for justice in the wrong place.

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openasocket 3y ago

> Though Neu was criminally charged by former District Attorney George Gascón in 2016 with 17 criminal counts, these charges were dropped after the Sheriff’s Office allegedly destroyed evidence in the case; in one instance, an investigator’s laptop was smashed with a hammer, purportedly due to a virus. Was the virus the kind that infects your brain, makes you delirious, and start smashing things with a hammer? /s But seriously, if someone cost the tax payers $280,000, why should you re-hire them? The allegations here are so disturbing. If any other kind of employee did anything half as bad, they would be fired without a second thought, whether they were convicted or not, whether they were in a union or not. I can't think of a single other union or industry where employees have this much power to remain on the job.

etc-hosts 3y ago
it's not really a strict "re-hiring". After the fight club news came out, the employee was separated from his job. Arbitration concluded he was unlawfully separated from his job. His employee contract requires the Sheriff's Dept to give him back his previous position, since arbitration ruled firing him was invalid. I'm sure the Sheriff's Department would prefer he go far far away and never come back. It will be hilarious if the department is required to pay him his yearly salary for the last 9 years to ("hilarious" as in this sucks)

FireBeyond 3y ago

Fun fact - people often ask "why isn't there a register of fired LEOs or those who resigned in order to avoid termination?" There is, a national register. However, many (the majority, even) of police union collective bargaining agreements prohibit the use of this register for hiring or promotional reasons.

darkwizard42 3y ago
Do you have a link to that national register?