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Apple's lawyers have been working hard to make it non-viable for third-party app stores while still complying with the law I guess. Sounds like this will be a n
by kivle 3y ago
Apple's lawyers have been working hard to make it non-viable for third-party app stores while still complying with the law I guess. Sounds like this will be a no go in it's first incarnation and EU will have to come back with an even stricter version probably removing all control from Apple. EU does not fuck around when it comes down to it with things like this.
- modeless 3y agoSadly I bet they will get away with it. Apple is very good at this sort of thing.
- Hamuko 3y agoFor how long? EU is also pretty good at coming after companies. Remember when Apple dodged switching from Lightning when micro-USB was a thing and now they're forced into USB-C?
- sokoloff 3y agoWhich I think is a better outcome than if we’d gotten iPhones stuck on a local maxima of microUSB. As a consumer, lightning is a more pleasant to use connector than micro and therefore, I’m glad Apple didn’t cave at that time.
- dzhiurgis 3y agoBut you could've got USB-C almost a decade earlier tho
- sokoloff 3y agoWhat was the advantage to me as a consumer if a 2015 iPhone got USB-C? IMO, USB-C wasn’t an advantage over Lightning then. (USB-C was not yet a common connector and most Apple users already had Lightning cables or could get by with the one included with the phone. Apple users had 3 years of orientation-independent convenience before USB-C arrived.) I still find plugging in the Lightning cable to be easier (less precise alignment needed) than a USB-C and by the time the iPhone 8 arrived with magnetic charging, any charging advantage to USB-C went away.
- kaba0 3y ago“Forced into”, as if apple hasn’t been producing literally every other items besides iphones with usb-c, based on their own choices. Of course if there were a law like that, they will rather point their fingers at the EU, over their users blaming apple for the slight inconvenience of changing.
- kivle 3y agoAnother example: It used to be that telecom companies used to milk cross country calls and data within the EU. The competition to provide cheap calls between countries was basically not working. So EU made it a requirement that you should not pay any extra at all for international calls between EU countries, and whatever data package you bought at home works everywhere within the EU with no extra charges.
- DaiPlusPlus 3y ago> So EU made it a requirement that you should not pay any extra at all for international calls between EU countries, and whatever data package you bought at home works everywhere within the EU with no extra charges. Arguably that's not a new requirement, but simply the EU enforcing the existing single market rules.
- kivle 3y agoIt wasn't considered a part of the single market rules until new legislation was passed. It came into effect in 2019. https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/intra-eu-calls https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/intra-eu-c... > Before Intra-EU communications were capped, the average standard price of a fixed or mobile intra-EU call tended to be three times higher than the standard price of a domestic call. While the standard price of an intra-EU SMS was more than twice as expensive as a domestic one. In some cases the standard price of an intra-EU call was up to ten times higher than the standard price for domestic calls.
- datadrivenangel 3y agoAnd this was such a good change! The degree to which companies get away with shenanigans outside of the EU is crazy.
- Klonoar 3y agoI'd wager it's just going to take time, but the EU did successfully hamper Apple here. Give 'em some credit.
- tivert 3y ago> Sadly I bet they will get away with it. Apple is very good at this sort of thing. Which is why new iPhones still have Lighting connectors. Oh wait. Just give it time to work its way out. We don't live in a cyberpunk dystopia yet.
- zarzavat 3y agoApple has zero leverage here. First, they are a foreign company so there is no local sympathy like in the Epic case. Secondly, the EU is already pissed off with Apple, hence the DMA. Thirdly, even if Apple doesn’t care what the EU thinks, their shareholders surely do, since the EU has the capacity to inflict huge financial damage on Apple, via fines, import bans and/or much more punitive regulations. Fuck around, find out.