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The AppStore is a distribution channel. It’s a plausible business model to charge per unit of distribution, just like a freight company might do. Unity is a ga

by gretch 3y ago

The AppStore is a distribution channel. It’s a plausible business model to charge per unit of distribution, just like a freight company might do. Unity is a game framework/toolkit/engine. It does not do distribution (I sign into unity to download games?). It is literally impossible for unity to even know about the amount of distribution that is happening. That’s why the guy lost his job. Same way the CEO of McDonald’s would be ousted for instituting subscription based pay for cheeseburgers, even though Spotify can do it just fine.

leereeves 3y ago
This fee is charged even if the app isn't distributed on the App Store.
choppaface 3y ago
Except Apple’s App Store has a monopoly on half of all phones, and there are plenty of other potential distributors that would be happy to enter and compete but are locked out. Apple wants you to accept that “just a distribution model” position because it helps them further cement their illegal monopoly.
- zer00eyz 3y ago
  >> Apple ... on half of all phones https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-market-share-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-ma... 40% in some places, not even that high globally (android wins by a large margin). But android isn't "one company". In the states, AT&T was a monopoly. They owned phones, the cables, the service, the device in your house... All of it. The rise and fall of ATT is a fascinating story, unix is free today because ATT was a monopoly (it's an interesting side effect not an argument for them). If you dont like apple, you have the choice of android. If you dont like nividia, you can pick AMD, if you dont like AMD, pick intel. Dont want to get on that Boeing flight, take Airbus... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly they exist all over and sometimes behave like monopoly's! Vendor lock in is real... I dont want to give up my iMessage bubbles is not that much different than not wanting to re-train pilots for something other than a 737 (and we get the max). Apple is much easier to pick on in this space because they have always aspired to be a vertically integrated company. YKK is a great example of one of these. They (ykk) make the zippers that DONT suck, they are just expensive vs everything else (sound like apple vs android). SO while the situation with apple might be lamentable, it isnt illegal or uncommon...
  - goosedragons 3y ago
    Over 50% in some places like the U.S and Japan...
  - kaba0 3y ago
    2 options is no choice. An oligopoly is not necessarily better than a monopoly.
- ribosometronome 3y ago
  >monopoly on half of all phones So, not a monopoly. If Apple is doing something inappropriate, you'd think we could discuss it without using boogeyman words that describe explicitly different situations.
awesomeMilou 3y ago
> The AppStore is a distribution channel. Except that EU regulators are of a different opinion, that the app store is a _market_ and not a _distribution channel_ and thus subject to antitrust regulations applicable for markets, as can be observed by spelling out the acronym DMA to "Digital Markets Act".
- gretch 3y ago
  Market places and distribution channels are not mutually exclusive concepts

by gretch 3y ago

leereeves 3y ago

This fee is charged even if the app isn't distributed on the App Store.

choppaface 3y ago

Except Apple’s App Store has a monopoly on half of all phones, and there are plenty of other potential distributors that would be happy to enter and compete but are locked out. Apple wants you to accept that “just a distribution model” position because it helps them further cement their illegal monopoly.

zer00eyz 3y ago
>> Apple ... on half of all phones https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-market-share-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-ma... 40% in some places, not even that high globally (android wins by a large margin). But android isn't "one company". In the states, AT&T was a monopoly. They owned phones, the cables, the service, the device in your house... All of it. The rise and fall of ATT is a fascinating story, unix is free today because ATT was a monopoly (it's an interesting side effect not an argument for them). If you dont like apple, you have the choice of android. If you dont like nividia, you can pick AMD, if you dont like AMD, pick intel. Dont want to get on that Boeing flight, take Airbus... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly they exist all over and sometimes behave like monopoly's! Vendor lock in is real... I dont want to give up my iMessage bubbles is not that much different than not wanting to re-train pilots for something other than a 737 (and we get the max). Apple is much easier to pick on in this space because they have always aspired to be a vertically integrated company. YKK is a great example of one of these. They (ykk) make the zippers that DONT suck, they are just expensive vs everything else (sound like apple vs android). SO while the situation with apple might be lamentable, it isnt illegal or uncommon...
- goosedragons 3y ago
  Over 50% in some places like the U.S and Japan...
- kaba0 3y ago
  2 options is no choice. An oligopoly is not necessarily better than a monopoly.
ribosometronome 3y ago
>monopoly on half of all phones So, not a monopoly. If Apple is doing something inappropriate, you'd think we could discuss it without using boogeyman words that describe explicitly different situations.

awesomeMilou 3y ago

> The AppStore is a distribution channel. Except that EU regulators are of a different opinion, that the app store is a _market_ and not a _distribution channel_ and thus subject to antitrust regulations applicable for markets, as can be observed by spelling out the acronym DMA to "Digital Markets Act".

gretch 3y ago
Market places and distribution channels are not mutually exclusive concepts