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Apple and the EU have been discussing the implementation for some time so it seems extremely likely this has all been OKed already. In particular, I’m sure the

• rany_ 3y ago
  If they actually okayed it, then I hope the EU reconsiders. In effect, Apple's tight grip on what apps you could run remains. I am also disappointed that those changes are EU-only, I hope most governments impose similar laws so that Apple just gives up and makes it global.
  • pertymcpert 3y ago
    This is different from the usual App Store review. It's to prevent malware.
    • octacat 3y ago
      I think in this case some antivirus companies from EU could do notarisation. Of course, companies that have a good track record and would actually do the proper job. No need to depend on Apple to do it. We do not have a single SSL CA, for example.
    • rany_ 3y ago
      IMHO it seems like it's there only to enforce that "Core Technology Fee" and even then I don't buy that argument. Malware already slips through Apple's "strict" App Store review process.
      • lwkl 3y ago
        Malware also slips through sandboxes and other security measures. That doesn‘t mean they are useless. App review and notarization helps a lot with security. But there will always be errors.
    • zamadatix 3y ago
      My concern mostly lies with "what will qualify as malware". When we think of malware we think of things the user would consider malware, i.e. the traditional use case of notarization. Is Apple thinking the same or is malware just apps that do things they don't like and haven't been otherwise forced to approve (e.g. like JIT is now allowed for browser engines)? Overall though I'm optimistic on it, just also cautious.
    • chatmasta 3y ago
      Sure, but if Apple assumes that any non-notarized app is malware, then they're not just preventing malware - they're requiring non-malware to notarize every install. And since this is coupled with a new policy where non-app store installs cost money, this means it will be enforced through the notarization mechanism. It's not the notarization itself that's an issue, but the fact that it's also the enforcement mechanism for collecting fees per-install. It's basically a mafia protection racket where you need to pay Apple to say you're not malware.
    • dns_snek 3y ago
      That's what they claim but I've yet to see any evidence to support this.
• layer8 3y ago
  From yesterday’s WSJ article [0]: “Officials from the European Commission, the EU’s executive body, have been holding meetings in recent months with Apple and other tech companies to discuss the new rules. Apple hasn’t provided a final package describing its solution to the commission or tested its plans with market participants. Once it does, the commission will review the full package to look at whether it will make the market more open and contestable, and whether the company’s plans meet all the individual provisions of the law, according to a person familiar with its plans.” We’ll see how that goes. [0] https://archive.is/Hk39s https://archive.is/Hk39s
  • Maxion 3y ago
    Feels like negotations broke down, and Apple published this publically to put pressure on.