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The "reusable" plastic don't really solve a problem. Like everyone else, I have dozens of tote bags at home all ready. The fact that I need a bag in the first p

The "reusable" plastic don't really solve a problem. Like everyone else, I have dozens of tote bags at home all ready. The fact that I need a bag in the first place is only because I forgot them or didn't have enough. Increasingly, stores don't even bother stocking them anymore - I've gotten used to just dumping groceries in my trunk when I forget my point. The bag bans don't really have a clear objective. "The cruelty is the point" - as some like to say.

acdha 3y ago
> The bag bans don't really have a clear objective I’ve never seen one where this statement is accurate. The most common purpose is reducing litter and most of the ones I’ve seen are specifically focused on keeping bags out of rivers and oceans, and they’re quite effective at that goal. Our local rivers went from being clogged with discarded bags to seeing very few of them within a few months. I also think you’re overselling the challenge here. Most people I know keep a couple of bags in their car/bike/backpack, which isn’t really harder than remembering an umbrella or coat.
- legitster 3y ago
  YMMV - I clean up trash in my neighborhood and I still see reusable bags littered everywhere. They are just so much heavier that they don't blow around in the wind as much and are durable enough that they get bogged down. So they end up in the bottom of puddles and packed around in undergrowth. It doesn't help that they are also much darker. Them being less noticeable is not necessarily a good thing overall. Keeping in mind a reusable bag has an order of magnitude more material in them, so even one of them contributes more plastic pollution than 5-6 crappy ones. Either ban plastics altogether or incentivize tote loaning or something. But the 8c "reusable disposable" bag is a complete sham.

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The "reusable" plastic don't really solve a problem. Like everyone else, I have dozens of tote bags at home all ready. The fact that I need a bag in the first p

by legitster 3y ago

acdha 3y ago
> The bag bans don't really have a clear objective I’ve never seen one where this statement is accurate. The most common purpose is reducing litter and most of the ones I’ve seen are specifically focused on keeping bags out of rivers and oceans, and they’re quite effective at that goal. Our local rivers went from being clogged with discarded bags to seeing very few of them within a few months. I also think you’re overselling the challenge here. Most people I know keep a couple of bags in their car/bike/backpack, which isn’t really harder than remembering an umbrella or coat.
- legitster 3y ago
  YMMV - I clean up trash in my neighborhood and I still see reusable bags littered everywhere. They are just so much heavier that they don't blow around in the wind as much and are durable enough that they get bogged down. So they end up in the bottom of puddles and packed around in undergrowth. It doesn't help that they are also much darker. Them being less noticeable is not necessarily a good thing overall. Keeping in mind a reusable bag has an order of magnitude more material in them, so even one of them contributes more plastic pollution than 5-6 crappy ones. Either ban plastics altogether or incentivize tote loaning or something. But the 8c "reusable disposable" bag is a complete sham.