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Have you already seen Zerospace?[1] I think it also looks great and there are some SC/SC2 pros involved in making it [1] https://store.steampowered.com/app/160

by iammjm 3y ago

Have you already seen Zerospace?[1] I think it also looks great and there are some SC/SC2 pros involved in making it [1] https://store.steampowered.com/app/1605850/ZeroSpace/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1605850/ZeroSpace/

AlexandrB 3y ago
No, I hadn't. This also looks great! Nice to see some action in this space - RTSs have been life support for the last little while.
whoswho 3y ago
As a grown ass man who played Vikings/rnrr/superman/War1/War2 / War2BNE /SC1/ SC1X/{basically every released and unreleased blizzard title including alphas}, I really really wish I could see a successor game that doesn’t have pinups of women that look like they have yoga tights and crop tops for armor. It would be nice to have a game that’s a bit less thirsty.
- jprd 3y ago
  Preach!
- solardev 3y ago
  As another grown ass man (well, more or less) who also played those games, what really bothers me is that dude's haircut. It's like a grease tsunami had sex with a chia pet. I miss the 90s, can you tell?
- gary_0 3y ago
  It's kind of weird how much of the gaming industry still caters to the teenage boy demographic.
  - graphe 3y ago
    Why it it strange to cater to a demographic and not stranger to shotgun everyone into liking something?
    - gary_0 3y ago
      I don't think there's that kind of singleminded focus in other entertainment industries, is there? Only a few movies or streaming shows are that pigeon-holed; usually the broader the demographics, the better. I would say comic books are more teen-boy-focused, but oddly the majority of the enthusiasts I've met were women (a classic Marvel fan, someone who had artier stuff like Alan Moore, and my sister who collects Archie) so I'm not sure.
      - graphe 3y ago
        Sports is men. eSports is men. From this logic we can understand why. YouTube is mostly men. Porn caters to men.
- otikik 3y ago
  Hear, hear
- deleted 3y ago
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- grotorea 3y ago
  They do mention in the description being inspired by Mass Effect so I guess they felt a visit to the $COLOUR-Skinned Space Babe spin wheel was part of the deal.
FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Unfortunately, I'm not impressed at all. It looks and feels like a cartoonish bootleg of SC with AI generated Fortnite-looking artwork. What made SC interesting, like most Blizzard IP of the time, was also the well written story lines with amazing character arcs, that kept people invested, and not that it was a strategy game of space marines versus organic aliens versus energy aliens. They even made sure to give story-time to the regular units as you unlocked them, not just the heroes. There were a lot of other similar strategy games at the time, and they all flopped (anyone remember Submarine Titans?). The first alpha release of SC was also mocked for being basically "Warcraft in space" so Blizzard had to step up and make SC special, and they did. The second game was less impactful than the original, but still good and memorable due to the story. Maybe I'm out of touch with modern gaming, but I don't see how this can succeed. If I want to play SC I can just get the real deal, and not just something that looks like it. The RTS games market is relatively small and niche nowadays and already saturated with quality established franchises from the past, so Zerospace would need to bring some new kick-ass revolutionary ideas to the table and not be just be "copy my homework but change it a bit" variant of SC.
- HideousKojima 3y ago
  SC1 had a great story with excellent writing, especially for the time. SC2's story was schlocky garbage. The biggest example of this is the opening cutscene of 2 with Raynor in the bar. Raynor's literal final line to Kerrigan in SC1 was "It may not be tomorow, darlin', it may not even happen with an army at my back. But rest assured; I'm the man who's gonna kill you one day. I'll be seeing you." Meanwhile in the opening cutscene of 2 he's pining over an old photo of her before she became a Zerg. Mind you any romantic relationship between Raynor and Kerrigan in SC1 was only possibly hinted at, it was never explicitly established. Also they literally never even mentioned Fenix, Raynor's best Protoss buddy, in SC2 Wings of Liberty despite Kerrigan betraying and murdering him.
  - blibble 3y ago
    > Also they literally never even mentioned Fenix, Raynor's best Protoss buddy, in SC2 Wings of Liberty despite Kerrigan betraying and murdering him. spoiler warning! like most characters killed in SC1 he does pop up, specifically in LOTV (not a good one though)
zelias 3y ago
Having spent some time watching showmatches for both games, my observation based on current 1v1 development is that Stormgate is intended to appeal to a wider audience whereas Zerospace targets the more "hardcore" RTS fanbase. In any case, I expect them both to be good. I'll probably spend too many hours playing both of these games.

by iammjm 3y ago

AlexandrB 3y ago

No, I hadn't. This also looks great! Nice to see some action in this space - RTSs have been life support for the last little while.

whoswho 3y ago

As a grown ass man who played Vikings/rnrr/superman/War1/War2 / War2BNE /SC1/ SC1X/{basically every released and unreleased blizzard title including alphas}, I really really wish I could see a successor game that doesn’t have pinups of women that look like they have yoga tights and crop tops for armor. It would be nice to have a game that’s a bit less thirsty.

jprd 3y ago
Preach!
solardev 3y ago
As another grown ass man (well, more or less) who also played those games, what really bothers me is that dude's haircut. It's like a grease tsunami had sex with a chia pet. I miss the 90s, can you tell?
gary_0 3y ago
It's kind of weird how much of the gaming industry still caters to the teenage boy demographic.
- graphe 3y ago
  Why it it strange to cater to a demographic and not stranger to shotgun everyone into liking something?
  - gary_0 3y ago
    I don't think there's that kind of singleminded focus in other entertainment industries, is there? Only a few movies or streaming shows are that pigeon-holed; usually the broader the demographics, the better. I would say comic books are more teen-boy-focused, but oddly the majority of the enthusiasts I've met were women (a classic Marvel fan, someone who had artier stuff like Alan Moore, and my sister who collects Archie) so I'm not sure.
    - graphe 3y ago
      Sports is men. eSports is men. From this logic we can understand why. YouTube is mostly men. Porn caters to men.
otikik 3y ago
Hear, hear
deleted 3y ago
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grotorea 3y ago
They do mention in the description being inspired by Mass Effect so I guess they felt a visit to the $COLOUR-Skinned Space Babe spin wheel was part of the deal.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

Unfortunately, I'm not impressed at all. It looks and feels like a cartoonish bootleg of SC with AI generated Fortnite-looking artwork. What made SC interesting, like most Blizzard IP of the time, was also the well written story lines with amazing character arcs, that kept people invested, and not that it was a strategy game of space marines versus organic aliens versus energy aliens. They even made sure to give story-time to the regular units as you unlocked them, not just the heroes. There were a lot of other similar strategy games at the time, and they all flopped (anyone remember Submarine Titans?). The first alpha release of SC was also mocked for being basically "Warcraft in space" so Blizzard had to step up and make SC special, and they did. The second game was less impactful than the original, but still good and memorable due to the story. Maybe I'm out of touch with modern gaming, but I don't see how this can succeed. If I want to play SC I can just get the real deal, and not just something that looks like it. The RTS games market is relatively small and niche nowadays and already saturated with quality established franchises from the past, so Zerospace would need to bring some new kick-ass revolutionary ideas to the table and not be just be "copy my homework but change it a bit" variant of SC.

HideousKojima 3y ago
SC1 had a great story with excellent writing, especially for the time. SC2's story was schlocky garbage. The biggest example of this is the opening cutscene of 2 with Raynor in the bar. Raynor's literal final line to Kerrigan in SC1 was "It may not be tomorow, darlin', it may not even happen with an army at my back. But rest assured; I'm the man who's gonna kill you one day. I'll be seeing you." Meanwhile in the opening cutscene of 2 he's pining over an old photo of her before she became a Zerg. Mind you any romantic relationship between Raynor and Kerrigan in SC1 was only possibly hinted at, it was never explicitly established. Also they literally never even mentioned Fenix, Raynor's best Protoss buddy, in SC2 Wings of Liberty despite Kerrigan betraying and murdering him.
- blibble 3y ago
  > Also they literally never even mentioned Fenix, Raynor's best Protoss buddy, in SC2 Wings of Liberty despite Kerrigan betraying and murdering him. spoiler warning! like most characters killed in SC1 he does pop up, specifically in LOTV (not a good one though)

zelias 3y ago

Having spent some time watching showmatches for both games, my observation based on current 1v1 development is that Stormgate is intended to appeal to a wider audience whereas Zerospace targets the more "hardcore" RTS fanbase. In any case, I expect them both to be good. I'll probably spend too many hours playing both of these games.