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We are in the middle of the first cyber world war. We have to do something, but the united nations are going to do... well this... This is obviously being writ

We are in the middle of the first cyber world war. We have to do something, but the united nations are going to do... well this... This is obviously being written by those who have been operating in this way for many years. In the meantime, I will support my country withdrawing from the united nations.

mordae 3y ago
> In the meantime, I will support my country withdrawing from the united nations. I don't believe that not talking to others is a solution, to be honest.
- incomingpain 3y ago
  >I don't believe that not talking to others is a solution, to be honest. Being in the united nations has basically nothing to do with talking to others. What exactly has the united nations done lately? Did they do anything about the genocide in western china? Did they do anything about Russia's war in ukraine? Did they do anything about Palestine's offensive war? At some point the UN lost their way. My country isn't significant on the world stage anymore, we arent going to fix anything. Best to withdraw.
  - grotorea 3y ago
    The UN is mostly about talking to others IMHO. The UN is not supposed to be the world government and actually doing things specially against the consent of the great powers is just not its job or what it was designed to do.
pixl97 3y ago
Ah yes, isolationism, Authoritarians love when countries do that, makes them easier to take over.
- incomingpain 3y ago
  >Ah yes, isolationism, Authoritarians love when countries do that, makes them easier to take over. Withdrawing from the united nations does not mean by default isolationism. NATO would still exist. Our alliance with EU would still exist. I believe our alliance with brexit still stands as well? I'm not saying isolationism, I'm saying United Nations doesn't do anything.
  - pixl97 3y ago
    >I'm saying United Nations doesn't do anything. No, you don't understand the purpose of the UN. It is not really supposed to do anything. It is supposed to allow a forum where everyone is allowed to talk, it allows nation state actors to signal their intentions to each other, rather than to guess about what their intentions are. Based on that signaling you can take that back to NATO to turn into actions.

mordae 3y ago

> In the meantime, I will support my country withdrawing from the united nations. I don't believe that not talking to others is a solution, to be honest.

incomingpain 3y ago
>I don't believe that not talking to others is a solution, to be honest. Being in the united nations has basically nothing to do with talking to others. What exactly has the united nations done lately? Did they do anything about the genocide in western china? Did they do anything about Russia's war in ukraine? Did they do anything about Palestine's offensive war? At some point the UN lost their way. My country isn't significant on the world stage anymore, we arent going to fix anything. Best to withdraw.
- grotorea 3y ago
  The UN is mostly about talking to others IMHO. The UN is not supposed to be the world government and actually doing things specially against the consent of the great powers is just not its job or what it was designed to do.

pixl97 3y ago

Ah yes, isolationism, Authoritarians love when countries do that, makes them easier to take over.

incomingpain 3y ago
>Ah yes, isolationism, Authoritarians love when countries do that, makes them easier to take over. Withdrawing from the united nations does not mean by default isolationism. NATO would still exist. Our alliance with EU would still exist. I believe our alliance with brexit still stands as well? I'm not saying isolationism, I'm saying United Nations doesn't do anything.
- pixl97 3y ago
  >I'm saying United Nations doesn't do anything. No, you don't understand the purpose of the UN. It is not really supposed to do anything. It is supposed to allow a forum where everyone is allowed to talk, it allows nation state actors to signal their intentions to each other, rather than to guess about what their intentions are. Based on that signaling you can take that back to NATO to turn into actions.