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I want a "cloud filesystem", but want it controlled by ME, not Apple, and not iCloud. That's the problem. Apple wants to control the filesystem, and I, and ot

I want a "cloud filesystem", but want it controlled by ME, not Apple, and not iCloud. That's the problem. Apple wants to control the filesystem, and I, and others are not willing to accept this horrific scenario.

cageface 14y ago
Yes you and your techie friends care about this. Most people don't. Current trends indicate user attention is shifting even more to native, BTW: http://blog.flurry.com/bid/80241/Mobile-App-Usage-Further-Dominates-Web-Spurred-by-Facebook http://blog.flurry.com/bid/80241/Mobile-App-Usage-Further-Do... The web vs native debate is really just a debate about which technology is better suited to building cloud client apps. HTML5 + JS is just another UI stack like Cocoa Touch or Android.
shock-value 14y ago
Go read cageface's comment again. I think you are using the words "native app" wrong, or at least different than what most people think it means. You are correct that data is moving into the cloud, and away from Apple's restricted file system (or any local file system). But that has nothing to do with native vs. web (HTML) apps. Native apps can easily store all their data in the cloud (ANY cloud, not just iCloud), and still be native apps in the usual sense of the word. It seems to me that the trend is toward native, cloud based apps. And these two concepts are not in conflict. As cageface says, they are orthogonal.
Camillo 14y ago
I find it hilarious that you are embracing cloud computing as your personal savior because you want MORE control. It's almost oxymoronic!
mark_integerdsv 14y ago
You "and others" are in the tiniest minority. Surely the current state of the market is clear enough indication of this? I don't know you from a bar of soap but reading your comments, I get the impression of an American late-teen with a solid amount of technical knowledge, strong opinions but staggeringly little perspective. Even amongst those who are capable of administering an 'open platform cloud infrastructure' there are few who have the time. In my own circumstances, ten years of programming experience, recently shifted from consultancy to an analysis role at a major financial institution, start up on the side, seven week old baby,ten year old daughter, wife, 33 years of age... Let me tell you: the more my technology 'just works' the better. I won't accept my rights bing trampled on but a system that is elegant and robust albeit a bit restrictive is far preferable to spending hour on end tinkering with something that I need to actually use as opposed to configure endlessly.
Produce 14y ago
I want a cloud everything. Docs, spreadsheets, filesystem, email, todo list, media player - everything. There's a niche in the OSS field for these kinds of applications at the moment.

cageface 14y ago

Yes you and your techie friends care about this. Most people don't. Current trends indicate user attention is shifting even more to native, BTW: http://blog.flurry.com/bid/80241/Mobile-App-Usage-Further-Dominates-Web-Spurred-by-Facebook http://blog.flurry.com/bid/80241/Mobile-App-Usage-Further-Do... The web vs native debate is really just a debate about which technology is better suited to building cloud client apps. HTML5 + JS is just another UI stack like Cocoa Touch or Android.

shock-value 14y ago

Go read cageface's comment again. I think you are using the words "native app" wrong, or at least different than what most people think it means. You are correct that data is moving into the cloud, and away from Apple's restricted file system (or any local file system). But that has nothing to do with native vs. web (HTML) apps. Native apps can easily store all their data in the cloud (ANY cloud, not just iCloud), and still be native apps in the usual sense of the word. It seems to me that the trend is toward native, cloud based apps. And these two concepts are not in conflict. As cageface says, they are orthogonal.

Camillo 14y ago

I find it hilarious that you are embracing cloud computing as your personal savior because you want MORE control. It's almost oxymoronic!

mark_integerdsv 14y ago

You "and others" are in the tiniest minority. Surely the current state of the market is clear enough indication of this? I don't know you from a bar of soap but reading your comments, I get the impression of an American late-teen with a solid amount of technical knowledge, strong opinions but staggeringly little perspective. Even amongst those who are capable of administering an 'open platform cloud infrastructure' there are few who have the time. In my own circumstances, ten years of programming experience, recently shifted from consultancy to an analysis role at a major financial institution, start up on the side, seven week old baby,ten year old daughter, wife, 33 years of age... Let me tell you: the more my technology 'just works' the better. I won't accept my rights bing trampled on but a system that is elegant and robust albeit a bit restrictive is far preferable to spending hour on end tinkering with something that I need to actually use as opposed to configure endlessly.

Produce 14y ago

I want a cloud everything. Docs, spreadsheets, filesystem, email, todo list, media player - everything. There's a niche in the OSS field for these kinds of applications at the moment.