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I would advise against using this for electrical work. See the internet for "wago vs twisting". Chicken wire, crafting, etc. sure.

jstanley 3y ago
You're not twisting electrical wires together to make an electrical connection, it's just to keep a bundle of wires together.
- almostnormal 3y ago
  Cable lacing keeps them together without any twisting.
- idiotsecant 3y ago
  The twisting is in fact part of the electrical connection. On a good wire nut connection the wire nut is just insulating the bundle and if it falls off the bundle is still secure.
  - dreamcompiler 3y ago
    No. If you use a good wire nut (i.e. use a good brand, have experience, and never reuse a wire nut), the nut itself makes the electrical connection. A good wire nut application will never fall off. If it does, you didn't attach it right. I concede this is a function of experience and it's not foolproof. All that having been said, I still pre-twist because it helps keep the wires together which makes it easier to put the nut on in the first place -- especially if you're connecting more than two wires. Edit: One point I left out is that if you don't pre-twist, correct attachment means you should put the nut on with enough tension that the nut itself causes the wires to twist together. This hurts your fingers if you do it all day, so using a wire nut twisting tool is recommended.
  - mschuster91 3y ago
    > On a good wire nut connection the wire nut is just insulating the bundle and if it falls off the bundle is still secure. The problem is, a good wire nut is impossible to distinguish from a bad wire nut. A transparent Wago (or its clones) are virtually foolproof to install and to inspect.
avar 3y ago
You're comparing apples to oranges. You need to twist or otherwise adhere wires together before soldering them, e.g. when using heat shrink solder sleeve, unless you've some other way to hold the wires in place. There's places where you can substitute wago, but often not, e.g. when working with limited space, e.g. repairing a broken wire harness in a car, or similar.
- Mashimo 3y ago
  > There's places where you can substitute wago, but often not, e.g. when working with limited space, e.g. repairing a broken wire harness in a car, or similar. Don't fear! The wago inline splicing connector is here! https://www.wago.com/global/electrical-interconnections/discover-installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/221/221-inline-splicing-connector https://www.wago.com/global/electrical-interconnections/disc...
  - avar 3y ago
    I knew about that, actually. It's way too big still for some uses, and I'm guessing won't deal well with anything that repeatedly lightly pulls on the wire (e.g. a trunk hinge). But for some other cases it's great.
    - londons_explore 3y ago
      Heat shrink solder connectors are the thing to use in this case: https://www.amazon.co.uk/-/dp/B073RMRCC3 https://www.amazon.co.uk/-/dp/B073RMRCC3 Waterproof, tension proof, will handle more current than the wire itself, hard to install wrong, and very reliable (ie. No fires)

jstanley 3y ago

You're not twisting electrical wires together to make an electrical connection, it's just to keep a bundle of wires together.

almostnormal 3y ago
Cable lacing keeps them together without any twisting.
idiotsecant 3y ago
The twisting is in fact part of the electrical connection. On a good wire nut connection the wire nut is just insulating the bundle and if it falls off the bundle is still secure.
- dreamcompiler 3y ago
  No. If you use a good wire nut (i.e. use a good brand, have experience, and never reuse a wire nut), the nut itself makes the electrical connection. A good wire nut application will never fall off. If it does, you didn't attach it right. I concede this is a function of experience and it's not foolproof. All that having been said, I still pre-twist because it helps keep the wires together which makes it easier to put the nut on in the first place -- especially if you're connecting more than two wires. Edit: One point I left out is that if you don't pre-twist, correct attachment means you should put the nut on with enough tension that the nut itself causes the wires to twist together. This hurts your fingers if you do it all day, so using a wire nut twisting tool is recommended.
- mschuster91 3y ago
  > On a good wire nut connection the wire nut is just insulating the bundle and if it falls off the bundle is still secure. The problem is, a good wire nut is impossible to distinguish from a bad wire nut. A transparent Wago (or its clones) are virtually foolproof to install and to inspect.

avar 3y ago

You're comparing apples to oranges. You need to twist or otherwise adhere wires together before soldering them, e.g. when using heat shrink solder sleeve, unless you've some other way to hold the wires in place. There's places where you can substitute wago, but often not, e.g. when working with limited space, e.g. repairing a broken wire harness in a car, or similar.

Mashimo 3y ago
> There's places where you can substitute wago, but often not, e.g. when working with limited space, e.g. repairing a broken wire harness in a car, or similar. Don't fear! The wago inline splicing connector is here! https://www.wago.com/global/electrical-interconnections/discover-installation-terminal-blocks-and-connectors/221/221-inline-splicing-connector https://www.wago.com/global/electrical-interconnections/disc...
- avar 3y ago
  I knew about that, actually. It's way too big still for some uses, and I'm guessing won't deal well with anything that repeatedly lightly pulls on the wire (e.g. a trunk hinge). But for some other cases it's great.
  - londons_explore 3y ago
    Heat shrink solder connectors are the thing to use in this case: https://www.amazon.co.uk/-/dp/B073RMRCC3 https://www.amazon.co.uk/-/dp/B073RMRCC3 Waterproof, tension proof, will handle more current than the wire itself, hard to install wrong, and very reliable (ie. No fires)