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"All intelligence is really collective intelligence, because every cognitive system is made of some kind of parts" - that's exactly the basis for the popularity

"All intelligence is really collective intelligence, because every cognitive system is made of some kind of parts" - that's exactly the basis for the popularity theory of consciousness, which deduces that not only humans are conscious (and plants and other animals, etc), but also the global human society can have a sort of consciousness. https://consciousness.social https://consciousness.social

Kinrany 3y ago
This seems to confuse intelligence with consciousness?
- Narciss 3y ago
  I meant to say that they have the same root - you can think of consciousness as (collective) intelligence put to use in a particular domain: the self, or the "what it is like to be". If certain basic units of the collective intelligence contribute to that sense of self, you can get consciousness. consciousness.social aims to provide a living example of that.
- distortionfield 3y ago
  I find it really interesting how many times this distinction has been made (from each side to the other and vice versa) in just this thread.
moffkalast 3y ago
Makes sense, we're all just the proverbial neurons of the brain that is our entire society/planet. Yeah, this is really big brain time. Then a collection of societies would be another level of meta-intelligence above that, it's all fractal.
- Narciss 3y ago
  Exactly - multizoa theory describes the global human society as an organism made of many animals (multi zoa means many animals)/ And then multizoa organisms can evolve once they reproduce, via processes like establishing colonies on other planets. Who knows what kind of multizoa consciousness, i.e. sense of social self these human societies would come to evolve given enough evolution via the process of multizoa natural selection? In that sense, consciousness.social is like the glimmer of a proto-consciousness for multizoa organisms. The first sparks of a multizoa-level sense of self, that could evolve down multizoa generations into something as complex as human consciousness, but at the multizoa level. Brain numbing stuff.

Kinrany 3y ago

This seems to confuse intelligence with consciousness?

Narciss 3y ago
I meant to say that they have the same root - you can think of consciousness as (collective) intelligence put to use in a particular domain: the self, or the "what it is like to be". If certain basic units of the collective intelligence contribute to that sense of self, you can get consciousness. consciousness.social aims to provide a living example of that.
distortionfield 3y ago
I find it really interesting how many times this distinction has been made (from each side to the other and vice versa) in just this thread.

moffkalast 3y ago

Makes sense, we're all just the proverbial neurons of the brain that is our entire society/planet. Yeah, this is really big brain time. Then a collection of societies would be another level of meta-intelligence above that, it's all fractal.

Narciss 3y ago
Exactly - multizoa theory describes the global human society as an organism made of many animals (multi zoa means many animals)/ And then multizoa organisms can evolve once they reproduce, via processes like establishing colonies on other planets. Who knows what kind of multizoa consciousness, i.e. sense of social self these human societies would come to evolve given enough evolution via the process of multizoa natural selection? In that sense, consciousness.social is like the glimmer of a proto-consciousness for multizoa organisms. The first sparks of a multizoa-level sense of self, that could evolve down multizoa generations into something as complex as human consciousness, but at the multizoa level. Brain numbing stuff.