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> species that were already highly sociable and live naturally, gregariously, and peacefully in groups of dozens or even hundreds. I live in a village of hundr

> species that were already highly sociable and live naturally, gregariously, and peacefully in groups of dozens or even hundreds. I live in a village of hundreds. We live gregariously and peacefully. But how about those people living in cities whose populations exceed the entire protohuman population? And if you have a source stating authoritatively how society functioned seven million years ago, as we parted evolutionary ways with the baboons and chimpanzees, I would love to read it.

wolverine876 3y ago
> how about those people living in cities whose populations exceed the entire protohuman population? How about it? I spend lots of time in cities; they are generally peaceful, gregarious and friendly. > if you have a source stating authoritatively how society functioned seven million years ago, as we parted evolutionary ways with the baboons and chimpanzees, I would love to read it. What is your point here?
- dotancohen 3y ago
  > What is your point here? The point is that we do not know if our seven million year old ancestors were peaceful or not. The assertion is unfounded.
- Chris2048 3y ago
  > I spend lots of time in cities Which ones?
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    Many of those that the right-wing news likes to promote as dangerous, chaotic, etc. They are wonderful; it's a great time to be in cities. Crime is very low, they are buzzing with energy. People are really missing out because of all the politicization.
    - Chris2048 3y ago
      All in america? Does that include SF?
nobody9999 3y ago
>I live in a village of hundreds. We live gregariously and peacefully. But how about those people living in cities whose populations exceed the entire protohuman population? I live in a city of almost nine million. Which far exceeds such a population, and not of proto-humans, but of fully modern ones (assuming the Toba Catastrophe Theory[0] is correct). As such, it's a pretty good bet that those few thousand who survived such a bottleneck 50-75k years ago lived similar lives (albeit with less technology) as we do today. And while we do have some issues with anti-social behavior (which, I'm sure, is present in your village on a much smaller scale -- and only because it's a much smaller population) in my city of almost nine million, on the whole people are cooperative, supportive and pro-social. If you don't like cities, that's fine -- don't live in one. But while Dunbar's Number[1] isn't applicable in my city, for the most part, we live pretty good lives. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number

wolverine876 3y ago

> how about those people living in cities whose populations exceed the entire protohuman population? How about it? I spend lots of time in cities; they are generally peaceful, gregarious and friendly. > if you have a source stating authoritatively how society functioned seven million years ago, as we parted evolutionary ways with the baboons and chimpanzees, I would love to read it. What is your point here?

dotancohen 3y ago
> What is your point here? The point is that we do not know if our seven million year old ancestors were peaceful or not. The assertion is unfounded.
Chris2048 3y ago
> I spend lots of time in cities Which ones?
- wolverine876 3y ago
  Many of those that the right-wing news likes to promote as dangerous, chaotic, etc. They are wonderful; it's a great time to be in cities. Crime is very low, they are buzzing with energy. People are really missing out because of all the politicization.
  - Chris2048 3y ago
    All in america? Does that include SF?

nobody9999 3y ago

>I live in a village of hundreds. We live gregariously and peacefully. But how about those people living in cities whose populations exceed the entire protohuman population? I live in a city of almost nine million. Which far exceeds such a population, and not of proto-humans, but of fully modern ones (assuming the Toba Catastrophe Theory[0] is correct). As such, it's a pretty good bet that those few thousand who survived such a bottleneck 50-75k years ago lived similar lives (albeit with less technology) as we do today. And while we do have some issues with anti-social behavior (which, I'm sure, is present in your village on a much smaller scale -- and only because it's a much smaller population) in my city of almost nine million, on the whole people are cooperative, supportive and pro-social. If you don't like cities, that's fine -- don't live in one. But while Dunbar's Number[1] isn't applicable in my city, for the most part, we live pretty good lives. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number