Same here, but they are not seen as as example of organized religion at all. More as an example of how religion could be, if the established organizations did n

Same here, but they are not seen as as example of organized religion at all. More as an example of how religion could be, if the established organizations did not exist. Perhaps it's a particularly lucky situation here in Germany with its almost perfect 50:50 split of Christians between Catholics and Lutherans, which makes neither a fringe group. Fringe groups all too often end up being a little (sometimes a lot) self-radicalizing. It's an interesting observation for sure, regarding differences in attitude to religion.