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Where it’s life or death will be an edgecase but it shouldn’t be ignored. There are other consequences like snarled traffic; if everyone goes near the limit, t

Where it’s life or death will be an edgecase but it shouldn’t be ignored. There are other consequences like snarled traffic; if everyone goes near the limit, then the way to merge is to slow down. I’d like to see more studies and actual data. Not simply rely on “common sense”.

acdha 3y ago
Yes, I too would like to see some data. For example, we have decades of studies showing that excessive speed is a significant factor to the point where even very pro-driver groups treat it as a given - here’s the first hit I got just now, for example: https://highways.dot.gov/public-roads/winter-2022/05 https://highways.dot.gov/public-roads/winter-2022/05 On the other hand, we’re being told that measures which will probably save many lives can’t be allowed because of things people saw in a movie? This thread is has people talking like it’s common to have trees falling across roads too quickly to brake or needing to evade pursuit, but it’s really conspicuous how nobody uses first-person language to describe it actually happening to them.
- nobodyandproud 3y ago
  Nobody is disputing that faster speeds on impact are more deadly. But what thought has been given to automatically restricting the speed of a car? If I cross from a 55 to 25 MPH, is it up to the automaker on whether it gradually slows? Brake checks? Should that mean speed limit zones should also be a gradual change? What happens when the system mistakes a highway for local? Should it be local only? How often is it error prone? Where’s your data for any of that? Poorly thought-out legislation will be worse than what we have now.
  - acdha 3y ago
    Yes, competent implementation is important as everywhere else but none of that is the topic of this thread, which started when someone imaginatively claimed that this would be “a big problem in situations that arguably warrant speeding” but could provide no data or even personal experience to support the idea that people are regularly evading pursuit or racing to the ER with a critically ill patient.
    - nobodyandproud 3y ago
      Competent requirements and implementation aren’t just as important. They’re the difference between life-and-death. May I also suggest you not take the worst interpretation from what was a minor and pedantic quip?

acdha 3y ago

Yes, I too would like to see some data. For example, we have decades of studies showing that excessive speed is a significant factor to the point where even very pro-driver groups treat it as a given - here’s the first hit I got just now, for example: https://highways.dot.gov/public-roads/winter-2022/05 https://highways.dot.gov/public-roads/winter-2022/05 On the other hand, we’re being told that measures which will probably save many lives can’t be allowed because of things people saw in a movie? This thread is has people talking like it’s common to have trees falling across roads too quickly to brake or needing to evade pursuit, but it’s really conspicuous how nobody uses first-person language to describe it actually happening to them.

nobodyandproud 3y ago
Nobody is disputing that faster speeds on impact are more deadly. But what thought has been given to automatically restricting the speed of a car? If I cross from a 55 to 25 MPH, is it up to the automaker on whether it gradually slows? Brake checks? Should that mean speed limit zones should also be a gradual change? What happens when the system mistakes a highway for local? Should it be local only? How often is it error prone? Where’s your data for any of that? Poorly thought-out legislation will be worse than what we have now.
- acdha 3y ago
  Yes, competent implementation is important as everywhere else but none of that is the topic of this thread, which started when someone imaginatively claimed that this would be “a big problem in situations that arguably warrant speeding” but could provide no data or even personal experience to support the idea that people are regularly evading pursuit or racing to the ER with a critically ill patient.
  - nobodyandproud 3y ago
    Competent requirements and implementation aren’t just as important. They’re the difference between life-and-death. May I also suggest you not take the worst interpretation from what was a minor and pedantic quip?