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Everyone plays with thumbsticks. The only people dumb enough to try to control a real vehicle with humans in it with dual thumbsticks were disintegrated somewhe

Everyone plays with thumbsticks. The only people dumb enough to try to control a real vehicle with humans in it with dual thumbsticks were disintegrated somewhere in the vicinity of the Titanic wreck last year. XBox and Playstation killed the joystick, and now flight mechanics in all games suck.

kelnos 3y ago
Not to mention you can't play X-Wing without using the keyboard. Since gamepads usually require two hands, it gets really awkward to do things like re-balance your shields, power allocation, etc. while trying to steer the fighter.
- jemmyw 3y ago
  When I was a kid and this game and Tie Fighter were around I got a joystick with 100 buttons/controls on it.
  - kelnos 3y ago
    Didn't even know such a thing existed. We could only afford a pretty basic model (3-axis, 2 button) when I was a kid.
    - jemmyw 3y ago
      100 was an exaggeration, I'm pretty sure it was one of these https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i75k_i_-240 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i75k_i_-240 Gravis phoenix with 46 programmable buttons.
      - kelnos 3y ago
        46 is still a crazy large number to me, so your exaggeration is still fine :)
    - mango7283 3y ago
      No one sells these anymore cries in wants to play old Sims from gig
  - r2_pilot 3y ago
    I got a Microsoft force feedback joystick to play them... Sadly I got rid of it before I got more interested in electronics.
omni 3y ago
We are in an absolute golden age of PC flight sims, especially with the immersion that we can get from VR, so when you say "all games" you mean "console games"
- mango7283 3y ago
  I feel there is still a lack of "realistic casual" flight Sims like "strike commander", TFX and "US Navy fighters" that fit the spot between the extremes of Ace Combat (not even a flight Sim) and DCS (too hard core, sorry) though.
  - omni 3y ago
    It's VR-only but VTOL VR is incredible and I think matches what you're talking about here? I haven't played those older ones you mentioned though

kelnos 3y ago

Not to mention you can't play X-Wing without using the keyboard. Since gamepads usually require two hands, it gets really awkward to do things like re-balance your shields, power allocation, etc. while trying to steer the fighter.

jemmyw 3y ago
When I was a kid and this game and Tie Fighter were around I got a joystick with 100 buttons/controls on it.
- kelnos 3y ago
  Didn't even know such a thing existed. We could only afford a pretty basic model (3-axis, 2 button) when I was a kid.
  - jemmyw 3y ago
    100 was an exaggeration, I'm pretty sure it was one of these https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i75k_i_-240 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i75k_i_-240 Gravis phoenix with 46 programmable buttons.
    - kelnos 3y ago
      46 is still a crazy large number to me, so your exaggeration is still fine :)
  - mango7283 3y ago
    No one sells these anymore cries in wants to play old Sims from gig
- r2_pilot 3y ago
  I got a Microsoft force feedback joystick to play them... Sadly I got rid of it before I got more interested in electronics.

omni 3y ago

We are in an absolute golden age of PC flight sims, especially with the immersion that we can get from VR, so when you say "all games" you mean "console games"

mango7283 3y ago
I feel there is still a lack of "realistic casual" flight Sims like "strike commander", TFX and "US Navy fighters" that fit the spot between the extremes of Ace Combat (not even a flight Sim) and DCS (too hard core, sorry) though.
- omni 3y ago
  It's VR-only but VTOL VR is incredible and I think matches what you're talking about here? I haven't played those older ones you mentioned though