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I think he simply meant that Java was marketed and therefore prospered as a counter to Microsoft's dominance more generally. You're right that .Net (and the CLR
by refset 3y ago
I think he simply meant that Java was marketed and therefore prospered as a counter to Microsoft's dominance more generally. You're right that .Net (and the CLR) came later in the story ...as a counter to Java.
- eduction 3y agoTo be clear the literal text on the slide is “aimed to counter Microsoft’s .NET framework.” He said something similar verbally. Slightly earlier he did discuss the general alliance against Microsoft. I thought it was funny he didn’t mention Netscape as part of the alliance. At the time they were considered far more important than IBM or Oracle for purposes of displacing Microsoft on the consumer side. It’s fine in the grand scheme of things, a younger person who was not there trying to reconstruct what happened and slipping up a bit. But for someone who cares about the details of this sort of history I didn’t want to absorb any similar errors about Common Lisp which I’m genuinely curious to learn about.
- pjmlp 3y ago.NET came out of Microsoft losing the lawsuit on J++, they were already using Java, and COM Runtime (see Ext-VOS paper) was being researched using J++, before the lawsuit came to be. A couple of C# features were born in J++, namely P/Invoke (J/Direct), events (influenced by Delphi before even Anders came to MS), and Windows Forms (WFC).