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Sex scenes make sense when seduction and sex are a big component of the movie's theme or plot. Like in erotic thrillers, for example. How people have sex tells

Sex scenes make sense when seduction and sex are a big component of the movie's theme or plot. Like in erotic thrillers, for example. How people have sex tells us something about them.

dylan604 3y ago
if you as a writer and/or director can't make that point without explicitly showing sex, then.... your audience isn't stupid, and they only resent you for belaboring the point.
- ipqk 3y ago
  You could say the same thing about violent scenes, or pretty much kind of scene. they do nothing for the story. great, they had a fight. we get it. if i want to see violence, there's plenty of free snuff films out there. i'm watching a movie because i enjoy things like plots, dialog, and well acted scenes. i don't look for those things in snuff films, so why am i expected to be looking for snuff films in a movie? i have yet to see a fight scene that made me think it did anything for the movie.
- hax0ron3 3y ago
  There are plot points that would naturally happen during sex. For example, a character accidentally blurting out a secret in a moment of passion. Or using the other person's lust-filled single-minded focus to distract, deceive, or betray them in the heat of the moment. Or you might want to show a different side of a character that only comes out occasionally. Maybe the character is normally reserved but becomes wild during sex. Or they are normally distant but become intimate during sex. My point is that sex scenes are not always just crowd-pleasing filler that is extraneous to the rest of the movie. A good writer and/or director could probably make pretty much any point without explicitly showing sex, but why not just do it while explicitly showing sex? Sex is a part of real human life after all, so it would be strange if the only movies that showed sex were pornos.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    you can continue to argue the point, but i will still feel that it could be shot differently and still convey what needs to be conveyed. i do feel like i should stipulate i am not calling for the ban of sex scenes like i'm some ultra conservative person trying to force my views upon everyone else. i just kind of roll my eyes during these parts of movies and pay more attention to my second screen that the movie is supposed to be vying for my attention from anyways. during these types of scene be it sex/fighting/gore/whatevs, i just tune out until it's over. i just don't find them compelling.
- pixl97 3y ago
  >your audience isn't stupid Well, I'm not sure I'd make bets on that one.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    okay, i concede that point. I am not stupid and resent the belaboring of the point. I know I'm not alone even if closer to a minority percentage.
- AndrewDucker 3y ago
  But why avoid explicitly showing sex? It's a natural part of life, it's part of the story that's going on, there's no good reason to avoid it.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    Because it's boring. You're not going to show anything in a PG-13 movie. Even R rated movies are not going to show much more than softcore. Most actors really do not like having to perform these scenes. Most people like the scenes because they get to see some boob not because it added to the movie in any other way. If people talk about a great sex scene in a movie over any other attribute of the movie, that's not a good bit of commentary on the plot or acting or writing. If you want to see sex, watch people having sex. Why watch people pretending to have sex?
    - AndrewDucker 3y ago
      This feels as bizarre to me as "If you want to see fighting, watch a fight. Why watch people pretending to fight?" Anything which is part of life should feasibly be part of stories.

Sex scenes make sense when seduction and sex are a big component of the movie's theme or plot. Like in erotic thrillers, for example. How people have sex tells us something about them.

dylan604 3y ago

if you as a writer and/or director can't make that point without explicitly showing sex, then.... your audience isn't stupid, and they only resent you for belaboring the point.

ipqk 3y ago
You could say the same thing about violent scenes, or pretty much kind of scene. they do nothing for the story. great, they had a fight. we get it. if i want to see violence, there's plenty of free snuff films out there. i'm watching a movie because i enjoy things like plots, dialog, and well acted scenes. i don't look for those things in snuff films, so why am i expected to be looking for snuff films in a movie? i have yet to see a fight scene that made me think it did anything for the movie.
hax0ron3 3y ago
There are plot points that would naturally happen during sex. For example, a character accidentally blurting out a secret in a moment of passion. Or using the other person's lust-filled single-minded focus to distract, deceive, or betray them in the heat of the moment. Or you might want to show a different side of a character that only comes out occasionally. Maybe the character is normally reserved but becomes wild during sex. Or they are normally distant but become intimate during sex. My point is that sex scenes are not always just crowd-pleasing filler that is extraneous to the rest of the movie. A good writer and/or director could probably make pretty much any point without explicitly showing sex, but why not just do it while explicitly showing sex? Sex is a part of real human life after all, so it would be strange if the only movies that showed sex were pornos.
- dylan604 3y ago
  you can continue to argue the point, but i will still feel that it could be shot differently and still convey what needs to be conveyed. i do feel like i should stipulate i am not calling for the ban of sex scenes like i'm some ultra conservative person trying to force my views upon everyone else. i just kind of roll my eyes during these parts of movies and pay more attention to my second screen that the movie is supposed to be vying for my attention from anyways. during these types of scene be it sex/fighting/gore/whatevs, i just tune out until it's over. i just don't find them compelling.
pixl97 3y ago
>your audience isn't stupid Well, I'm not sure I'd make bets on that one.
- dylan604 3y ago
  okay, i concede that point. I am not stupid and resent the belaboring of the point. I know I'm not alone even if closer to a minority percentage.
AndrewDucker 3y ago
But why avoid explicitly showing sex? It's a natural part of life, it's part of the story that's going on, there's no good reason to avoid it.
- dylan604 3y ago
  Because it's boring. You're not going to show anything in a PG-13 movie. Even R rated movies are not going to show much more than softcore. Most actors really do not like having to perform these scenes. Most people like the scenes because they get to see some boob not because it added to the movie in any other way. If people talk about a great sex scene in a movie over any other attribute of the movie, that's not a good bit of commentary on the plot or acting or writing. If you want to see sex, watch people having sex. Why watch people pretending to have sex?
  - AndrewDucker 3y ago
    This feels as bizarre to me as "If you want to see fighting, watch a fight. Why watch people pretending to fight?" Anything which is part of life should feasibly be part of stories.