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But where does the water go? It can't simply just vanish. It's a capacity problem, right? Also who cares who eats the beef? If you price in the water usage the

But where does the water go? It can't simply just vanish. It's a capacity problem, right? Also who cares who eats the beef? If you price in the water usage then these people eating all the beef will either keep eating and pay for their use or stop. Don't blame people for enjoying their life. It's akin to blaming people for using electricity when it is powered by coal...

delfinom 3y ago
The remark about who eats the beer is about the fact baby boomer generation is in full swing retirement wave. As they retire they switch to fixed income and as they age, they will consume less beef, because their bodies won't keep up. Basically if demographics hold, then the US will see a drop in beef consumption in 5 years and in part, more water conservation lol
- seoulmetro 3y ago
  What does that have to do with water conservation? It's not water conservation it's water usage that's going down. If you fill your car tank and don't drive, you're not conserving it because it's still going to drain just as fast when you do drive. The car has already got the water in there. You won't take it back out.
303uru 3y ago
>But where does the water go Not back into aquifers, that takes hundreds if not thousands of years. >Also who cares who eats the beef? If you price in the water usage Ya, that's kinda the point, we don't. If we removed the massive subsidies propping up ranching very few people would be consuming beef. >Don't blame people for enjoying their life I don't think I did, but as you brought it up. I'll absolutely shame people for having disproportionate impacts on conservation of our natural resources. Boomers especially are leaving the planet a worse place than they inherited and I for one hope younger generations can reverse that trend.
- seoulmetro 3y ago
  Yeah so they're not back into aquifers, but so what. Where is it going if we aren't reusing it? Into the ocean? That is the only reasonable explanation. Unless it's physically leaving Earth which I doubt but also it could be true, who knows. So remove them. Stop crying about cows or the medium, they aren't related to it. It's purely a regulated movement problem. You are talking about who is eating the meat. It is totally irrelevant unless you are there to single them out and blame them. So you're blaming who, the people eating or the "boomers" regulating it so they can eat? Right now it sounds like the people eating. Consumers aren't the problem. If you give people things they enjoy they will consume them, that isn't new science, and so they should.
  - I_Am_Nous 3y ago
    The main point they are trying to make is the people eating most of the beef are dying off. If the trend holds and younger generations don't drastically increase beef consumption, there just won't be anyone to eat the same amount of beef they are producing currently. Therefore, they will have to reduce beef production which may reduce water used when growing food to feed the cattle as fewer cattle eat less food. So they are pointing out this problem may resolve itself somewhat as the people that industry relies on die out or retire to an income less able to buy steak for every meal.
    - seoulmetro 3y ago
      But what does all that have to do with anything? It won't resolve itself. Natural products have ebbs and flows. Meat isn't exactly a luxury product.
      - I_Am_Nous 3y ago
        The way we produce meat is anything but natural these days. That takes its toll on our resources. Far more than growing food directly for humans does.
        3y ago

delfinom 3y ago

The remark about who eats the beer is about the fact baby boomer generation is in full swing retirement wave. As they retire they switch to fixed income and as they age, they will consume less beef, because their bodies won't keep up. Basically if demographics hold, then the US will see a drop in beef consumption in 5 years and in part, more water conservation lol

seoulmetro 3y ago
What does that have to do with water conservation? It's not water conservation it's water usage that's going down. If you fill your car tank and don't drive, you're not conserving it because it's still going to drain just as fast when you do drive. The car has already got the water in there. You won't take it back out.

303uru 3y ago

>But where does the water go Not back into aquifers, that takes hundreds if not thousands of years. >Also who cares who eats the beef? If you price in the water usage Ya, that's kinda the point, we don't. If we removed the massive subsidies propping up ranching very few people would be consuming beef. >Don't blame people for enjoying their life I don't think I did, but as you brought it up. I'll absolutely shame people for having disproportionate impacts on conservation of our natural resources. Boomers especially are leaving the planet a worse place than they inherited and I for one hope younger generations can reverse that trend.

seoulmetro 3y ago
Yeah so they're not back into aquifers, but so what. Where is it going if we aren't reusing it? Into the ocean? That is the only reasonable explanation. Unless it's physically leaving Earth which I doubt but also it could be true, who knows. So remove them. Stop crying about cows or the medium, they aren't related to it. It's purely a regulated movement problem. You are talking about who is eating the meat. It is totally irrelevant unless you are there to single them out and blame them. So you're blaming who, the people eating or the "boomers" regulating it so they can eat? Right now it sounds like the people eating. Consumers aren't the problem. If you give people things they enjoy they will consume them, that isn't new science, and so they should.
- I_Am_Nous 3y ago
  The main point they are trying to make is the people eating most of the beef are dying off. If the trend holds and younger generations don't drastically increase beef consumption, there just won't be anyone to eat the same amount of beef they are producing currently. Therefore, they will have to reduce beef production which may reduce water used when growing food to feed the cattle as fewer cattle eat less food. So they are pointing out this problem may resolve itself somewhat as the people that industry relies on die out or retire to an income less able to buy steak for every meal.
  - seoulmetro 3y ago
    But what does all that have to do with anything? It won't resolve itself. Natural products have ebbs and flows. Meat isn't exactly a luxury product.
    - I_Am_Nous 3y ago
      The way we produce meat is anything but natural these days. That takes its toll on our resources. Far more than growing food directly for humans does.
      - 3y ago