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"It takes a bonkers 1,611 US gallons (6,098 litres) to produce 1 litre of almond milk,” says the Sustainable Restaurant Association’s Pete Hemingway." [1] So t

"It takes a bonkers 1,611 US gallons (6,098 litres) to produce 1 litre of almond milk,” says the Sustainable Restaurant Association’s Pete Hemingway." [1] So that would be 6,000 gallons of water to make 1 Gallon of Almond Milk... that seems to be more than your 800 Gallon figure for cow milk.... Also you will take my Steak and Hamburger over my dead body... America will never, not in may life time, give up Beef, it is after all what is for dinner. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/food/2018/sep/05/ditch-the-almond-milk-why-everything-you-know-about-sustainable-eating-is-probably-wrong https://www.theguardian.com/food/2018/sep/05/ditch-the-almon...

arcticbull 3y ago
Where did you get the idea I supported almond production for milk substitutes. I specifically cited other much lower water usage milk substitutes like oat and soy. > Also you will take my Steak and Hamburger over my dead body... America will never, not in may life time, give up Beef, it is after all what is for dinner. Also not relevant, but ok. I'll make a note of it. Personally, I think meat should just be much more expensive, representing the actual consumption of resources in its production. That way we could just let the market sort it out.
- hedora 3y ago
  Regardless, as I understand it, it's well-established that almond milk uses less water per gallon than dairy milk. However, we grow almonds in areas that don't have enough water, and milk is often produced in areas with surplus water. Either way, I prefer soy milk.
  - thelastparadise 3y ago
    > Either way, I prefer soy milk. Are you at all concerned about hormone imbalances?
    - alan-hn 3y ago
      The estrogenic substances are not present in physiological relevant concentrations, its not anything to worry about
- dgfitz 3y ago
  > Personally, I think meat should just be much more expensive, representing the actual consumption of resources in its production. That way we could just let the market sort it out. When the govt. starts subsidizing, the market cannot sort it out, or at least that is how I’ve seen things play out. I’m not a market expert by any means.
hombre_fatal 3y ago
1) The link to their source doesn't go anywhere. Other sources have very different numbers: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1092652/volume-of-water-to-produce-a-liter-of-milk-by-type/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1092652/volume-of-water-... 2) If you truly cared about this and weren't just using it to justify your milk consumption, why wouldn't you switch to a far less water intensive milk like soy milk?

arcticbull 3y ago

Where did you get the idea I supported almond production for milk substitutes. I specifically cited other much lower water usage milk substitutes like oat and soy. > Also you will take my Steak and Hamburger over my dead body... America will never, not in may life time, give up Beef, it is after all what is for dinner. Also not relevant, but ok. I'll make a note of it. Personally, I think meat should just be much more expensive, representing the actual consumption of resources in its production. That way we could just let the market sort it out.

hedora 3y ago
Regardless, as I understand it, it's well-established that almond milk uses less water per gallon than dairy milk. However, we grow almonds in areas that don't have enough water, and milk is often produced in areas with surplus water. Either way, I prefer soy milk.
- thelastparadise 3y ago
  > Either way, I prefer soy milk. Are you at all concerned about hormone imbalances?
  - alan-hn 3y ago
    The estrogenic substances are not present in physiological relevant concentrations, its not anything to worry about
dgfitz 3y ago
> Personally, I think meat should just be much more expensive, representing the actual consumption of resources in its production. That way we could just let the market sort it out. When the govt. starts subsidizing, the market cannot sort it out, or at least that is how I’ve seen things play out. I’m not a market expert by any means.

hombre_fatal 3y ago

1) The link to their source doesn't go anywhere. Other sources have very different numbers: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1092652/volume-of-water-to-produce-a-liter-of-milk-by-type/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1092652/volume-of-water-... 2) If you truly cared about this and weren't just using it to justify your milk consumption, why wouldn't you switch to a far less water intensive milk like soy milk?