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> Work with code on any machine This is referring to remote editing support. Platform support is in their FAQ, but I agree it should be a bit clearer on the h

> Work with code on any machine This is referring to remote editing support. Platform support is in their FAQ, but I agree it should be a bit clearer on the homepage. Perhaps the download button should say "Download for MacOS" or similar. I do think your comment here is unnecessarily rude.

behnamoh 3y ago
> Work with code on any machine > This is referring to remote editing support. I agree with the OP, I thought it meant Zed was cross platform or something.
Gorath 3y ago
It's rude to make misleading marketing statements as well, especially when you are addressing a technical market. That is pretty bad, and thinking so is not rude.
- arghwhat 3y ago
  It’s “rude” to intentionally mislead. It’s not rude to be bad at marketing.
foundry27 3y ago
Rude to who exactly? OP criticized the landing page for a) omitting the fact that ~85% of desktop computer users can’t use Zed, and b) alluding to this not being the case with language about working anywhere. This isn’t an attack on the authors, or on the product they clearly put so much time into. Yeah, OP said the page is really bad. But IMO we should be able to express negative opinions on things we think suck about technical content without being forced to couch our language in euphemisms for fear of being rude, especially on a site like HN.
- mcpherrinm 3y ago
  Let me quote two of the entries from the "In Comments" section of https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. Expressing negative opinions is fine. But perhaps you should have a fear of being rude. We are a community, and there's plenty of other people reading these comments. I value kindness and being constructive, neither of which the comment I replied to appear to express.
  - depressedpanda 3y ago
    If you value kindness, consider empathy. The person you're somewhat haughtily tone policing is obviously annoyed about wasting a totally unnecessary amount of time on something ultimately useless to them. And the feedback was constructive (and easily actionable): be upfront about the very limited platform support, don't waste people's time.
    - tptacek 3y ago
      You're trying to high horse a complaint about someone referring to a new open source release as "worse than bad"? Because it doesn't support their preferred operating system? And it took them too many clicks on the website to learn that? No, that won't do.
      - depressedpanda 3y ago
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        tptacek 3y ago
        I don't think there's a way to talk yourself back up onto the horse here. Drive-by barbs like "worse than bad" are a plague on this site. It was a rude complaint about the website for an open source project, and it was called out civilly. Ironically, it's your personalizing response that skirts closest to incivility. You can just disagree next time (if you really want to) without lecturing people on empathy? I think that strategy might work better.
        depressedpanda 3y ago
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        thomastjeffery 3y ago
        You seem really choosy about whom you apply your empathy. If I had chosen more direct words, and written my criticism with less emotion, then you clearly wouldn't have any issue with it. My comment has 81 points at the time of writing this one. Clearly the majority opinion here is that the substance of it was worthwhile. God forbid humans express emotion on the internet. You are welcome to criticize my expression. To simply filter it out as bad internet speak is, at the very least, a bad strategy.

behnamoh 3y ago

> Work with code on any machine > This is referring to remote editing support. I agree with the OP, I thought it meant Zed was cross platform or something.

Gorath 3y ago

It's rude to make misleading marketing statements as well, especially when you are addressing a technical market. That is pretty bad, and thinking so is not rude.

arghwhat 3y ago
It’s “rude” to intentionally mislead. It’s not rude to be bad at marketing.

foundry27 3y ago

Rude to who exactly? OP criticized the landing page for a) omitting the fact that ~85% of desktop computer users can’t use Zed, and b) alluding to this not being the case with language about working anywhere. This isn’t an attack on the authors, or on the product they clearly put so much time into. Yeah, OP said the page is really bad. But IMO we should be able to express negative opinions on things we think suck about technical content without being forced to couch our language in euphemisms for fear of being rude, especially on a site like HN.

mcpherrinm 3y ago
Let me quote two of the entries from the "In Comments" section of https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. Expressing negative opinions is fine. But perhaps you should have a fear of being rude. We are a community, and there's plenty of other people reading these comments. I value kindness and being constructive, neither of which the comment I replied to appear to express.
- depressedpanda 3y ago
  If you value kindness, consider empathy. The person you're somewhat haughtily tone policing is obviously annoyed about wasting a totally unnecessary amount of time on something ultimately useless to them. And the feedback was constructive (and easily actionable): be upfront about the very limited platform support, don't waste people's time.
  - tptacek 3y ago
    You're trying to high horse a complaint about someone referring to a new open source release as "worse than bad"? Because it doesn't support their preferred operating system? And it took them too many clicks on the website to learn that? No, that won't do.
    - depressedpanda 3y ago
      [flagged]
      - tptacek 3y ago
        I don't think there's a way to talk yourself back up onto the horse here. Drive-by barbs like "worse than bad" are a plague on this site. It was a rude complaint about the website for an open source project, and it was called out civilly. Ironically, it's your personalizing response that skirts closest to incivility. You can just disagree next time (if you really want to) without lecturing people on empathy? I think that strategy might work better.
        depressedpanda 3y ago
        [flagged]
        thomastjeffery 3y ago
        You seem really choosy about whom you apply your empathy. If I had chosen more direct words, and written my criticism with less emotion, then you clearly wouldn't have any issue with it. My comment has 81 points at the time of writing this one. Clearly the majority opinion here is that the substance of it was worthwhile. God forbid humans express emotion on the internet. You are welcome to criticize my expression. To simply filter it out as bad internet speak is, at the very least, a bad strategy.