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WPA3 on Raspberry Pi 3B+, 4B and 5B with iwd

16 points by lwhsiao 3y ago

Scramblejams 3y ago
On my home network I have WPA3 disabled because so many devices seem to do really badly at fast roaming between APs with it, so it's WPA2 everywhere for me. Someday?
- jauntywundrkind 3y ago
  This is literally the only report I've seen of someone who got 802.11r Fast BSS Transition working with WPA3. https://forum.openwrt.org/t/802-11r-wpa3-does-it-work/135041/5 https://forum.openwrt.org/t/802-11r-wpa3-does-it-work/135041... I've seen tons of reports declaring that it just doesn't work & isn't expected to. It was a shock seeing a report that it does work!
  - Scramblejams 3y ago
    Interesting. Hope that means it's within the power of the AP vendors to fix it. In the meantime, WPA3 is required for 6 GHz -- so I guess we just sit that band out.
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anotherhue 3y ago
I can get some decent speeds with the standard wifi card in the Framework 13 (Intel) and the new U7 Pro AP. Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6 AX210 160MHz 6GHz channel (mandatory WPA3). Intel iwd instead of wpa_supplicant (though it worked okay). [ 5] local 192.168.1.232 port 59618 connected to 192.168.1.201 port 5201 [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr Cwnd [ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 95.0 MBytes 796 Mbits/sec 26 1.14 MBytes [ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 96.1 MBytes 806 Mbits/sec 22 899 KBytes [ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 98.2 MBytes 825 Mbits/sec 0 977 KBytes [ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 96.0 MBytes 805 Mbits/sec 0 1.03 MBytes [ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 97.5 MBytes 818 Mbits/sec 0 1.10 MBytes [ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 95.2 MBytes 799 Mbits/sec 16 863 KBytes [ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 93.4 MBytes 783 Mbits/sec 0 960 KBytes [ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 95.2 MBytes 799 Mbits/sec 0 1.01 MBytes [ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 94.0 MBytes 789 Mbits/sec 0 1.06 MBytes [ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 97.6 MBytes 819 Mbits/sec 0 1.11 MBytes
jauntywundrkind 3y ago
iwd is slick as hell. I use it with systemd-networkd and it's so smooth. There's fantastic support for all the weird ways to connect: wifi-p2p/direct, ad-hoc, Device Provisioning Protocol (DPP/Easy Connect), Shared Code Device Provisioning (Pkex). Good debug tools like initiating roam to. It's nice that iwd does less; it just gets wireless connected. NetworkManager does so much, and somehow it's never sparked joy. I've spent time on connman and that was fine enough. I've managed my own wpa-supplicant configs, which worked but was clunky. Iwd has really been a joy to work with for me, so clear & direct, with easy config files & a very pleasant little tui/cli. Systemd-networkd has also been quite simple & direct for me, very configurable. But that's another story.
- csdvrx 3y ago
  > iwd has really been a joy to work with for me, so clear & direct, with easy config files & a very pleasant little tui/cli. I discovered it on arch. It's a perfect companion to bluetoothctl, and far better than what I had seen on Linux before
anitil 3y ago
There is a followup post saying that the module is disconnecting from the network after 11hrs, the cause seems a bit murky (I'd say probably a firmware issue but haven't looked in to it at all) https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/ https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/
satori99 3y ago
Hold on there: WPA3 connections fail after 11 hours https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/ https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/ "My conclusion: this entire ecosystem is deeply cursed."
M95D 3y ago
iwd doesn't even work properly with wpa and wpa2: https://www.google.com/search?q=iwd+%22invalid+key%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=iwd+%22invalid+key%22
ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
Not so fast: https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/ https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/

16 points by lwhsiao 3y ago

On my home network I have WPA3 disabled because so many devices seem to do really badly at fast roaming between APs with it, so it's WPA2 everywhere for me. Someday?

jauntywundrkind 3y ago
This is literally the only report I've seen of someone who got 802.11r Fast BSS Transition working with WPA3. https://forum.openwrt.org/t/802-11r-wpa3-does-it-work/135041/5 https://forum.openwrt.org/t/802-11r-wpa3-does-it-work/135041... I've seen tons of reports declaring that it just doesn't work & isn't expected to. It was a shock seeing a report that it does work!
- Scramblejams 3y ago
  Interesting. Hope that means it's within the power of the AP vendors to fix it. In the meantime, WPA3 is required for 6 GHz -- so I guess we just sit that band out.

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anotherhue 3y ago

I can get some decent speeds with the standard wifi card in the Framework 13 (Intel) and the new U7 Pro AP. Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6 AX210 160MHz 6GHz channel (mandatory WPA3). Intel iwd instead of wpa_supplicant (though it worked okay). [ 5] local 192.168.1.232 port 59618 connected to 192.168.1.201 port 5201 [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr Cwnd [ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 95.0 MBytes 796 Mbits/sec 26 1.14 MBytes [ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 96.1 MBytes 806 Mbits/sec 22 899 KBytes [ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 98.2 MBytes 825 Mbits/sec 0 977 KBytes [ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 96.0 MBytes 805 Mbits/sec 0 1.03 MBytes [ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 97.5 MBytes 818 Mbits/sec 0 1.10 MBytes [ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 95.2 MBytes 799 Mbits/sec 16 863 KBytes [ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 93.4 MBytes 783 Mbits/sec 0 960 KBytes [ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 95.2 MBytes 799 Mbits/sec 0 1.01 MBytes [ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 94.0 MBytes 789 Mbits/sec 0 1.06 MBytes [ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 97.6 MBytes 819 Mbits/sec 0 1.11 MBytes

jauntywundrkind 3y ago

iwd is slick as hell. I use it with systemd-networkd and it's so smooth. There's fantastic support for all the weird ways to connect: wifi-p2p/direct, ad-hoc, Device Provisioning Protocol (DPP/Easy Connect), Shared Code Device Provisioning (Pkex). Good debug tools like initiating roam to. It's nice that iwd does less; it just gets wireless connected. NetworkManager does so much, and somehow it's never sparked joy. I've spent time on connman and that was fine enough. I've managed my own wpa-supplicant configs, which worked but was clunky. Iwd has really been a joy to work with for me, so clear & direct, with easy config files & a very pleasant little tui/cli. Systemd-networkd has also been quite simple & direct for me, very configurable. But that's another story.

csdvrx 3y ago
> iwd has really been a joy to work with for me, so clear & direct, with easy config files & a very pleasant little tui/cli. I discovered it on arch. It's a perfect companion to bluetoothctl, and far better than what I had seen on Linux before

anitil 3y ago

There is a followup post saying that the module is disconnecting from the network after 11hrs, the cause seems a bit murky (I'd say probably a firmware issue but haven't looked in to it at all) https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/ https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/

satori99 3y ago

Hold on there: WPA3 connections fail after 11 hours https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/ https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/ "My conclusion: this entire ecosystem is deeply cursed."

M95D 3y ago

iwd doesn't even work properly with wpa and wpa2: https://www.google.com/search?q=iwd+%22invalid+key%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=iwd+%22invalid+key%22

ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago

Not so fast: https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/ https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/01/24/fail/