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Some people used to write crap code stitching together snippets from stack overflow, now the same people write crap code stitching together what ChatGPT spit ou

Some people used to write crap code stitching together snippets from stack overflow, now the same people write crap code stitching together what ChatGPT spit out after trained on said stackoverflow clusterfuck of buggy or flat out incorrect solutions. You do you.

ben_w 3y ago
And those people are now your competitors and customers. Worse (for all of us in this industry) sometimes there's a bug or three, but it can generally fix those bugs by you giving the source code (if the source didn't already come from the LLM) and simply describing the issue. Even when the bug is graphical in nature, which is pretty wild for a text based chat engine that can't see (like 3.5 is). And that's without applying my experience of any language or frameworks, e.g. when asking it for solutions in languages I don't have meaningful professional experience in, like JavaScript. When I can apply my experience, I cringe at the choices it comes up with, and find I want to use it as a rough guide rather than a complete answer. But you know who doesn't care about cringy code? Everyone who isn't a developer. Even QA only cares if it passes the tests.
- shzhdbi09gv8ioi 3y ago
  > And those people are now your competitors and customers. For now, yes. > When I can apply my experience, I cringe at the choices it comes up with, and find I want to use it as a rough guide rather than a complete answer. But you know who doesn't care about cringy code? Everyone who isn't a developer. Even QA only cares if it passes the tests. This is a race to the bottom, surely you must understand that? I expect some of the biggest tech companies to start limiting developer use of LLM:s soon due to the monumental technical debt they are creating. More context: https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2024/01/25/copilot-research.aspx https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2024/01/25/copilot...

ben_w 3y ago

And those people are now your competitors and customers. Worse (for all of us in this industry) sometimes there's a bug or three, but it can generally fix those bugs by you giving the source code (if the source didn't already come from the LLM) and simply describing the issue. Even when the bug is graphical in nature, which is pretty wild for a text based chat engine that can't see (like 3.5 is). And that's without applying my experience of any language or frameworks, e.g. when asking it for solutions in languages I don't have meaningful professional experience in, like JavaScript. When I can apply my experience, I cringe at the choices it comes up with, and find I want to use it as a rough guide rather than a complete answer. But you know who doesn't care about cringy code? Everyone who isn't a developer. Even QA only cares if it passes the tests.

shzhdbi09gv8ioi 3y ago
> And those people are now your competitors and customers. For now, yes. > When I can apply my experience, I cringe at the choices it comes up with, and find I want to use it as a rough guide rather than a complete answer. But you know who doesn't care about cringy code? Everyone who isn't a developer. Even QA only cares if it passes the tests. This is a race to the bottom, surely you must understand that? I expect some of the biggest tech companies to start limiting developer use of LLM:s soon due to the monumental technical debt they are creating. More context: https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2024/01/25/copilot-research.aspx https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2024/01/25/copilot...