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I think some religious parents with gay kids have tried that line before. Deafness is a medical issue depriving a human being of a naturally evolved sense that

by scrps 3y ago

I think some religious parents with gay kids have tried that line before. Deafness is a medical issue depriving a human being of a naturally evolved sense that is critical to survival even in a stable civilized world. Denying them that sense because of identity politics is every type of wrong.

IAmNotACellist 3y ago
1. Hearing isn't critical to survival in our modern world, at least in the West 2. What you mean to say is denying people the ability to regain their sense of hearing, and the medical interventions you're alluding to don't do that to the extent you're imagining. Our best approaches, cochlear implants: don't restore hearing in the way that removing earplugs would, have a large learning curve; only work on some people; and the affected person's brain usually can't be fully capable of understanding and reproducing spoken language the way a born-hearing person would. People who receive them also still rely on some amount of lip-reading, sign, and apps. 3. People who are adept with sign and familiar with the deaf community often communicate far, far easier with sign language than a hearing person communicating with a deaf/HoH person who has a cochlear implant To what extent do you actually have knowledge and experience on the topics you're discussing?
- Tor3 3y ago
  Hearing is pretty essential if you're a pedestrian, when you're not in an environment with sidewalks and traffic lights everywhere. When I'm walking around where I live (in two different countries) I have to constantly be aware of traffic sounds behind me. I can think of a number of other situations where lack of hearing would be a disadvantage, or downright dangerous. You can live without a sense of smell too. But I for one find it extremely useful when a quick sniff tells me some food stuff which otherwise looks fine has actually gone off.
- scrps 3y ago
  A friend of mine was stabbed to death during a robbery, he was from a low income neighborhood very much in a wealthy western city, he was stabbed to death simply to avoid him fighting back because he was a big guy so they ran up on him from behind, something he would have heard had he not been deaf but thank you for the lecture.
  - IAmNotACellist 3y ago
    A friend of mine was beaten over the head with a metal pipe in an inner city area of DC and nearly died. Another was beaten up in a German city, kicked in the head, and has permanent brain damage. Both were hearing. Another was robbed at gunpoint and knife-point (separate incidents) in inner-city Baltimore. I don't blame any of this on their hearing. Do you have something resembling a point?

by scrps 3y ago

IAmNotACellist 3y ago

1. Hearing isn't critical to survival in our modern world, at least in the West 2. What you mean to say is denying people the ability to regain their sense of hearing, and the medical interventions you're alluding to don't do that to the extent you're imagining. Our best approaches, cochlear implants: don't restore hearing in the way that removing earplugs would, have a large learning curve; only work on some people; and the affected person's brain usually can't be fully capable of understanding and reproducing spoken language the way a born-hearing person would. People who receive them also still rely on some amount of lip-reading, sign, and apps. 3. People who are adept with sign and familiar with the deaf community often communicate far, far easier with sign language than a hearing person communicating with a deaf/HoH person who has a cochlear implant To what extent do you actually have knowledge and experience on the topics you're discussing?

Tor3 3y ago
Hearing is pretty essential if you're a pedestrian, when you're not in an environment with sidewalks and traffic lights everywhere. When I'm walking around where I live (in two different countries) I have to constantly be aware of traffic sounds behind me. I can think of a number of other situations where lack of hearing would be a disadvantage, or downright dangerous. You can live without a sense of smell too. But I for one find it extremely useful when a quick sniff tells me some food stuff which otherwise looks fine has actually gone off.
scrps 3y ago
A friend of mine was stabbed to death during a robbery, he was from a low income neighborhood very much in a wealthy western city, he was stabbed to death simply to avoid him fighting back because he was a big guy so they ran up on him from behind, something he would have heard had he not been deaf but thank you for the lecture.
- IAmNotACellist 3y ago
  A friend of mine was beaten over the head with a metal pipe in an inner city area of DC and nearly died. Another was beaten up in a German city, kicked in the head, and has permanent brain damage. Both were hearing. Another was robbed at gunpoint and knife-point (separate incidents) in inner-city Baltimore. I don't blame any of this on their hearing. Do you have something resembling a point?