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Is there a "Common Lisp Electron" thing floating around? The GUI situation of the free lisps is pretty much a non-started for anything portable, just curious i

Is there a "Common Lisp Electron" thing floating around? The GUI situation of the free lisps is pretty much a non-started for anything portable, just curious if there's a project bundling Common Lisp with a browser window, like Rust Taurus. At this level, there's no reason to fret about download sizes anymore if you're comparing to something like Electron, so no real need to "shake the tree" or really limit the lisp image size. Modern lisps aren't that big compared to most anything else anyway.

vindarel 3y ago
I am exploring this atm. Basically once you build your CL web app as one binary, containing the HTML and other static assets, it is straightforward to open it in an Electron window. So is it with Tauri, Neutralino or another webview. How to communicate between the CL app and Electron I didn't have a look yet.
floren 3y ago
I just wish McCLIM was a little more... ready. I've had some success writing a McCLIM application that works on Linux, but they only support the X backend for now meaning anyone on Windows would have to install an X server. It's a fascinating way to write a GUI, though.
- rjsw 3y ago
  One of the SBCL developers wrote a McCLIM backend that generated HTML, had been meaning to ask what state it was in.
  - andsoitis 3y ago
    Did you find out from them?
jinwoo68 3y ago
See https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog.
aidenn0 3y ago
Ceramic does this: http://ceramic.github.io/ http://ceramic.github.io/ [edit] Maybe not... see vindarel's reply
- vindarel 3y ago
  Ceramic is a wrapper around simple commands and while I wished it worked, it's broken and unmaintained. One can get to a working state with a couple npm commands (npm init electron-app@latest my-app ; … ; npm run make)
KerrAvon 3y ago
Lisp should be able to do much better than Electron. It could support a really nice take on declarative UI like SwiftUI, where it's abstract enough to be platform native on multiple platforms, but allows for specialization where needed.
dannyobrien 3y ago
It's not quite a match to what you're looking for, but I think Nyxt's long-term plan is to build something similar (essentially, be a Common Lisp environment for a browser window in the same way that Emacs is an lisp environment for a text editor). https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/ https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/

vindarel 3y ago

I am exploring this atm. Basically once you build your CL web app as one binary, containing the HTML and other static assets, it is straightforward to open it in an Electron window. So is it with Tauri, Neutralino or another webview. How to communicate between the CL app and Electron I didn't have a look yet.

floren 3y ago

I just wish McCLIM was a little more... ready. I've had some success writing a McCLIM application that works on Linux, but they only support the X backend for now meaning anyone on Windows would have to install an X server. It's a fascinating way to write a GUI, though.

rjsw 3y ago
One of the SBCL developers wrote a McCLIM backend that generated HTML, had been meaning to ask what state it was in.
- andsoitis 3y ago
  Did you find out from them?

jinwoo68 3y ago

See https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog.

aidenn0 3y ago

Ceramic does this: http://ceramic.github.io/ http://ceramic.github.io/ [edit] Maybe not... see vindarel's reply

vindarel 3y ago
Ceramic is a wrapper around simple commands and while I wished it worked, it's broken and unmaintained. One can get to a working state with a couple npm commands (npm init electron-app@latest my-app ; … ; npm run make)

KerrAvon 3y ago

Lisp should be able to do much better than Electron. It could support a really nice take on declarative UI like SwiftUI, where it's abstract enough to be platform native on multiple platforms, but allows for specialization where needed.

dannyobrien 3y ago

It's not quite a match to what you're looking for, but I think Nyxt's long-term plan is to build something similar (essentially, be a Common Lisp environment for a browser window in the same way that Emacs is an lisp environment for a text editor). https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/ https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/