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If the so-called liberal Western regimes respected privacy rights they way they claim to it would be perfectly reasonable to trust a cloud provider with your da

If the so-called liberal Western regimes respected privacy rights they way they claim to it would be perfectly reasonable to trust a cloud provider with your data.

indymike 3y ago
Technology moves faster than law, so we’re seeing areas where the existing precedent, such as the “Third Party Doctrine,” just doesn’t work well when I’m renting server space (all SaaS is this way) for much of what would have been personal property and papers. The nice thing about Western democracies is that they evolve over time and generally get better. In the US things are changing as judges are forced to review decisions and laws are changed as both judges and representatives start to understand new tech. It takes time.
itishappy 3y ago
I think I'm not understanding your point. GDPR seems to be the current gold standard for privacy at the moment. Are there any similar policies in non-western nations to speak of?
- goodSteveramos 3y ago
  How is what non-western countries do relevant to the question of if western governments actually practice the values they claim to hold?
  - itishappy 3y ago
    You're making this out to be a western problem, but I suspect it's actually a general human thing. Actually, I have a hunch that the west has made more progress here than anywhere else, and I'm curious if anyone disagrees.
    - goodSteveramos 3y ago
      I doubt anyone would disagree with that statement. Would you agree that the actions of western leaders reveal their liberalism is superficial?
      - itishappy 3y ago
        Somewhat, sure. They certainly haven't achieved 100% of the liberal ideal. But if they're currently setting the bar for policy in this regard, can it be entirely superficial?
        goodSteveramos 3y ago
        Yes and it is. If they actually believed in libety or democracy they wouldnt drag their feet like this and be content with merely bei g “more liberal” than your standard dictatorship.

If the so-called liberal Western regimes respected privacy rights they way they claim to it would be perfectly reasonable to trust a cloud provider with your data.

indymike 3y ago

Technology moves faster than law, so we’re seeing areas where the existing precedent, such as the “Third Party Doctrine,” just doesn’t work well when I’m renting server space (all SaaS is this way) for much of what would have been personal property and papers. The nice thing about Western democracies is that they evolve over time and generally get better. In the US things are changing as judges are forced to review decisions and laws are changed as both judges and representatives start to understand new tech. It takes time.

itishappy 3y ago

I think I'm not understanding your point. GDPR seems to be the current gold standard for privacy at the moment. Are there any similar policies in non-western nations to speak of?

goodSteveramos 3y ago
How is what non-western countries do relevant to the question of if western governments actually practice the values they claim to hold?
- itishappy 3y ago
  You're making this out to be a western problem, but I suspect it's actually a general human thing. Actually, I have a hunch that the west has made more progress here than anywhere else, and I'm curious if anyone disagrees.
  - goodSteveramos 3y ago
    I doubt anyone would disagree with that statement. Would you agree that the actions of western leaders reveal their liberalism is superficial?
    - itishappy 3y ago
      Somewhat, sure. They certainly haven't achieved 100% of the liberal ideal. But if they're currently setting the bar for policy in this regard, can it be entirely superficial?
      - goodSteveramos 3y ago
        Yes and it is. If they actually believed in libety or democracy they wouldnt drag their feet like this and be content with merely bei g “more liberal” than your standard dictatorship.